The #GNU Image Manipulation Program maintainers use a lot of branding for their program with something both sexual and offensive to a minority.

When called on it, they tell people to fork.

When people fork it, they are ridiculed and insulted.

@tindall what do you mean by "a lot of branding"? isn't it just the name of the project

@nik the name of the project, which is shown in offensive acronym form in a big unskippable splash screen, in the title, etc etc

@tindall ah.

I understand the objection to using it in the application GUI but I feel like an executable name that's the full application name would just be clunky...

@nik Totally! I don't want to re-live this whole conversation here - suffice it to say that much ink was shed on this topic - but the ultimate resolution was that the software should be re-branded entirely. Hence Glimpse, which recently cut its first release.

@tindall regardless of the arguments for/against renaming it I don't see there being much of a point in forking it if contributions don't start coming in towards glimpse, lest glimpse just stays tracked to gimp master aside from find/replacing the branding in the wouldn't be a shift in the project in that case, just some non developers (meaning, not actually contributing to functionality) repackaging others' code

@nik yeah! This is one really nice thing about the name change forcing a fork - there are changes that would (imo anyway) benefit UX massively that are blocked on maintainer stubbornness, which will hopefully be resolved in Glimpse

In either case though, I can pitch Glimpse to my design professor. I could not do that for GIMP without being dismissed out of hand.

@tindall honestly surprised to hear that GIMP would be dismissed just for the name, but it would be cool to have QoL improvements

@nik what can I tell you. Everyone says they're surprised. Go to your boss or prof or local library and say "I'd like to install the GIMP on your computer" and tell me what happens. I'll give you odds it ain't great.

@tindall @nik These problems seem to be english-speaking country specific, it's not like whole world speaks english.
Gimp and LO were deployed at my university and school.
Also your situation sounds weird. If you need to edit images, program name rarely is the thing that matters.

@nesc @nik yes. Sadly, I live in one of those English speaking countries, and the issue isn't that _I_ have to edit images - the issue is that design classes here are taught exclusively in Photoshop, including stuff like quizzes on the function of different buttons!

I tried proposing that we use a free and open image editor and was told we couldn't use "amateur software with a disgusting name".

Yes, I think the prof was wrong. And yet, how do I solve that?


@tindall @nik
Well, if you have classes that include quizzes on button positions, you have bigger problems than program names. ๐Ÿ˜ฟ
I am all for forking, just won't recommend this fork for a few years. If it will be still around in a year or two, good.
Also please stop being this antagonistic I am not even against glimpse and you. ๐Ÿ˜…

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@nesc @nik that's fair! The "you" there was unnecessary, I should have said "some absolute grognards" :P

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