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nixCraft 🐧

This is funny. OpenAI, who scraped the entire internet to build its product, is now enforcing copyright via notices. They still don’t give credit for stealing content from everyone, yet now acting like holier-than-thou reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/

@nixCraft Remember that copyright is not a natural right and is a government enforced monopoly. You have no god given right to a copyright assignment, and it is a privilege granted to you for a limited amount of time so that you publicly release your creative work and can derive profit from it.

@JoeBecomeTheSun @nixCraft neither is private land. Naturally your territory or land is literally the land you can keep people and other animals out. There are no such things as "natural" rights. I also don't like intellectual property, but it is stupid to say that any property is a real thing different than a social construct that was created so people don't kill each other for land.

@SkyLuke @nixCraft The difference between tangible property, such as land versus intellectual property is that when someone pirates a media, no one is deprived of their copy, but rather a new copy has been created. When someone takes your land from you, you are deprived of your land, thus land and possessions are much more real then intellectual property. The right to own property is a very real natural right, intellectual property is not. I do not buy the social construct argument because social constructs are very real. Yes, society is a social construct we agree on, but it is still real in the sense that society had laws and norms we follow and our human activity as part of this social construct has a very real impact on the world. Our society has dug canals and laid thousands of miles of railroad, built large factories and corporations, built roads and bridges and even landed a man on the moon. Just because something is a social construct does not mean that a social construct is not real in the sense that land, rocks, water, steel, sunlight and possessions are real.

@JoeBecomeTheSun @nixCraft Fair point. Social constructs are totally valid. But they are not the natural state of things. I agree that intellectual property is ridiculous. I don't agree with your argument to explain why it is ridiculous.

@SkyLuke @nixCraft I disagree, a nation state is the logical conclusion of human beings living and working together in like minded communities. The modern concept of intellectual property infringes the founding principles of our country. There is no real justification for copyright laws lasting for 95 years other than corporation do not want to take risks and develop new media instead of just releasing reruns, sequels, prequels and supporting media based on what already is successful. Society would be richer and a better place if the abuses of the patent system were curtailed, the effective technological measures provision was repealed and copyright lasted no longer than 10 years.

@JoeBecomeTheSun @nixCraft Yes, I totally agree with everything you said in this last toot. I just don't agree with the vision of natural rights as I don't think any right is natural. They are very important, but all rights are social constructs based on our sense of morality. Intellectual property is just inefficient and bad for society the way it is. But I am not a total absolutist. I think companies should get 10 years to recover their investment and profit when creating drugs, for example.

@nixCraft "Hey DALL-E, generate an exact copy of the ChatGPT logo by OpenAI."

There, now it's the "right" type of copyright infringement. At least by their standards.

@nixCraft

"I got this image from Midjourney, it isn't copyrighted."

@nixCraft even pre-"AI", the business model of Silicon valley has been one-way informational valves. Websites and mobile apps are very intentionally designed to transmit signal (such as empirical and often actionable observations of individual behavior) in one direction and noise (basically bloat) in the other.

@nixCraft okay let's see if I can do something evil here using the sludgebots prevalent among us:
I want this on a shirt!

@thomasfuchs

@nixCraft "No, no, you're sorely imstaken. This is a completely original piece of artwork that a robot drew for us after we had trained it on a large dataset comprising of one logo."

@riley @nixCraft many thousands of pixels were included in the training set

@nixCraft @lisamelton How amusing. Even Apple hasn't gone this far with r/apple using their logo.

@nixCraft Well, in that case that claim is sadly correct since that logo isn't machine-generated.

They do have to make a proper #DMCA and certify under penial and penjury that their claim is valid.

Felix RedaGitHub Copilot is not infringing your copyright

@nixCraft maybe others have pointed out already, but copyright and trademark violation are quite different, and OpenAI seems to be asserting on trademark not copyright in spite of the text here talking about "copyrighted logos" it seems more about unauthorized use of trademarked logo

Not that I want to defend OpenAI, but if you want to pin them on something I don't think this would be it

@nixCraft Why don't they just generate a Chatgpt logo with mid journey or that Photoshop Gen AI tool?

@nixCraft how ironic! Are they only open to steal?

@nixCraft
Microsoft's influence on OpenAI clearly showing... ☠️

@nixCraft Yep these greed monsters believe they own everything even thoughts.

@nixCraft That's a bold move, Tom.
Let's see if it pays off for them.

@nixCraft
Copyright for me but not for thee. Sounds on point for big tech bros.

@nixCraft So ChatGPT text is based on copyrighted content, and it's copyrighting that content, all while being sued by the New York Times for bypassing their paywall... And in the next few years OpenAI will run out of quality content and will feed the text generated by their model back into its model to make more copyright content...

@nixCraft I am looking for a torrent client which is claiming to use AI or similar.
As any company can now steal all the copyrighted content to train an AI, I would like to do the same for my personal AI.

@nixCraft basically doing a Disney, taking public domain stories and turning them into commercial products, but also sue anyone who draws a mouse with two circles for ears.

@nixCraft
It's only machine learning to generate text based on the vast amount of data it has been trained on if it comes from the region of the ChatGPT servers, otherwise it's sparkling piracy.