Been thinking about @mala's comments yesterday about how mastodon's diy and decentralized vibe evokes the spirit of the "first web".
On the one hand, I am feeling the nostalgia for power-to-the-people techno-utopianism.
On the other hand, we've since learned that the most likely outcome of that ideology looks less like infinite transcendent expression and more like /r/bitcoin.
Can we do better this time?
tbh prioritizing witches & furries over encryption seems like a reasonable start…
@njs *shrug* initial conditions are important. Human rights, Marxism, even academic intersectionality analysis all bear the marks of eurocentrism or their initial conditions, but they aspire to universality. My experience is that new ideologies don't lead somewhere automatically -- their end result is as influenced by who read what and who slept with who as it is with what they explicitly say.
@njs I think we're in a period where ideas can be tainted by origin: I was -- am -- a fan of theft and collage, because we didn't know (pretty obviously!) about deeper interconnections. If it was weird, throw it into the stew. I know people who are opposed to tenets of free, uncensorable, speech because, in strong part, their opponents support it. The engine supports them as much as it supports their opponents, they just have more pressing and clear tenets to argue for.
@mala (Well, RMS is complicated b/c he has genuinely important ideas mixed in with the radical awfulness. But nonetheless.)
I guess ESR and Perens are interesting as faces of how vulnerable techy principles were to co-option by capital, which is a huge part of the story too.
Well, and that's something: I expected we'd need another market crash before this kind of thing got traction again; I'm surprised and pleased that it might not be true.
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