@patrickloonstra Was wondering where all the extra traffic was coming from!
@dansup Hope the servers are keeping up. But especially I hope that it get's more traction bu the attention.
This is the problem we need to solve as Fediverse app developers. The vast majority of people don't know or care about ActivityPub or decentralized protocols. If we want federation to become the new paradigm, we need a better answer to this question.
I've switched to not use the phrase ActivityPub as much as possible. It just doesn't resonate. Fediverse is better, but I still don't have a good sound byte to explain it to the layperson.
I've tried to explain federation in simple terms here:
but if you want a tl/dr then I'd say this:
If your phone company screws up, you can switch providers, and you can still call your friends because all phone companies are part of the single public phone network.
Federated social networks work the same way.
This is what @mike has been working on - nomadic identity in the zot protocol.
If I've been keeping up, Mike thinks its not possible in ActivityPub. Thats why Osada was made, provide a way of nomadic zot identities to interact with activitypub etc.
I know. I was a long time involved. But it's the zot protocol and can maybe talk with AP, but only without nomadic identity.
Also ZOT has no possibility to keep your handle and I think this is not possible with the current user@domain usage.
@jeroenpraat This is beyond my knowledge, but please keep talking bout it. Do not let me interrupt.
Good point. Both term does not ring a bell at the majority of the folks. There is a need for a clear story about this movement.
I can design, can animate a bit so
Once I made this about Bitcoin and blockchain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIVAluSL9SU
Very nice to make, bit it takes a whole lot of time. Time I do not have at the moment.
We need to pull @Gargron also into this discussion.
We can start by writing it down on a central site. Federatedstuff.org or so. Work from there to translations, make video and animation.
I do not know. But there is space to explain this new great world.
This was difficult for my Mastodon users. 'federated' was weird, 'fediverse' sounds like a comic book term. I had the same issue explaining rss.
AP is fine, IMO. But it's new, it needs a super simple, short explanation to make it mean something.
When I told my users it worked like email, (at user, at place) and was a way to subscribe and follow people from anywhere, they got it instantly
@jdormit @patrickloonstra @dansup I think we need to point to some of the films and books where people are connecting thru devices regardless of app or software. That is the emphasis is on communication not the platform. That's hard to do as your trying to promote your software creation.So I like your idea of talking #ActivityPub whenever you can.
@sikkdays @patrickloonstra @dansup I was actually advocating to not talk about ActivityPub. People's eyes just sort of glaze over the moment you say "federation protocol". Fediverse seems to work better, and @switchingsocial 's phone carrier analogy works as well. It's the difference between selling the technical details of a product vs. selling the features of the product (where in this case the "product" is the federated social web)
THIS video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA
The best way to spread the vision is to lead by example (run an instance et al. FOSS software) AND bring your closest friends and family into the fold. The video I linked probably explains things better than any of us could. Personally, im planning to run a small mastodon instance of an RPi, just for my family, I think its a valid use case for an instance - 1/2
Once you bring friends and family into the fold and they fully understand, they can propogate the vision themselves. Once enough people are aware that this exists, the Fediverse will potentially reach its "tipping point" growth will explode - the faster the better, and the faster we can grow by recruiting more users but more importantly developers across the board
@jalcine Everything starts small. So stay active, contribute where you can and talk about what is going on in the world and here.
That is what I will and can do.
I agree. And there's a lot of animosity that some people have to brands and business coming to the #fediverse but I strongly agree that it's the place for business to move into.
I'd love to follow my favorite brands from THEIR sites, purchase DIRECTLY from them, etc etc.
As for most not caring about decentralized, most don't care about privacy, either. You'll never sell those people on any technical, or moral reason.
The only way to serve the ones who don't care is to increase usage, and overcome the network effect.
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