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The goal for the discover feature is to use public data (likes, captions, comments, hashtags) as signals in an algorithm to show you related posts (including federated posts the instance is aware of). This would be similar to IG while balancing privacy with discovery! (non-public data will not be used, ie: dm's, follower only posts, ect)

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@pixelfed would there be a way to opt out for people who aren’t interested in using the discover page? Ive never once used IG’s so I’m dubious about how necessary they are, but I dont personally care that much

But I imagine other people might feel much more strongly about being able to opt out of that kind od data analysis, considering how many social media companies have turned out to be just horrible lately

@Satsuma @pixelfed yeah, full transparency with a visible and clearly-communicated opt out should cover most anyone. of course there's also a limit to what's possible when you're federating out unencrypted public objects...

@trwnh @pixelfed yes federation is inherently trust based, which i personally see as a good thing but it does mean its easy to exploit

Right now our neighbors are mostly all using mastodon or pleroma neither of which to my knowledge has a feature like this, so pixelfeds got the freedom to set the model for how this is done

Maybe anyone who has robots.txt would be omitted? Masto already has that option in settings so wed be building on preexisting infrastructure

@Satsuma good point. Let's offer two windows to the world
- 'discover' the #pixelfed
- see the 'federation' stream @pixelfed

hi @Satsuma I can't answer about the "opt-out" request you make (I'm not developer) but SO FAR there's no "analysis" concerning Discover. It's not based on who you follow or what you "like", it is just a selection on pictures and carrousell of users. Pixelfed is under huge development and you/me can contribute with messages like this ;-)

Correct me if I'm wrong @pixelfed

@Satsuma in the last toot @pixelfed explains that ;)

It reads "would be", in the future.

@xosem @pixelfed yes i know would be means in the future? I like discussing things /before/ they happen, when theres the highest chance of actually making productive changes

Hence me wanting to know if we’re considering building a way to opt out of this into the system

@xosem @pixelfed was responding to the “The goal for the discover feature is to use public data (likes, captions, comments, hashtags) as signals in an algorithm to show you related posts (including federated posts the instance is aware of)” part of the original post

Mastodon discussed adding full text search and decided against it due to potential for harassment & it lowering the quality of conversation, so I’d expect the same people are uncomfortable with this

@Satsuma sure! I agree, thanks for bringing up this privacy point 👍

@pixelfed

@Satsuma Yes, opt-out is part of the privacy settings!

@pixelfed cool! Will discover not use posts from non pixelfed accounts or are you working on a way to let non users opt out? Was thinking about robots.txt as a possibility for that but not sure if it’d be feasable