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It'll be interesting to see what happens when Reddit starts charging for their APIs for commercial use, especially as source training data for large language models.

There are a lot of discussions today about what layer of the AI economy would be the most lucrative, but rarely do we ever consider the openly searchable internet. Then there's the question of compensation for the content creators. Interesting times.


techcrunch.com/2023/04/18/redd

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@productnerd As far as I can tell, there's no need for them to compensate creators:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content...

redditinc.com/policies/user-ag

Still, usage of my content in LLMs isn't something I foresaw; it may be time to leave.

www.redditinc.comUser Agreement - February 15, 2024 - Reddit

@yoasif That's exactly it. Our content is used to generate these LLM. Will there be a departure of professionals from spaces that claim rights to our content?

On the other hand, I do rather enjoy contributing to progress. I am okay with using my work to attract people to a specific platform to generate revenue through whatever means. I am unsure about the direct, albeit miniscule, large scale monetization of my explicit work.

@productnerd

>Will there be a departure of professionals from spaces that claim rights to our content?

>On the other hand, I do rather enjoy contributing to progress.

Amusingly, while professionals (term used loosely) are often very gung-hu about exploiting the efficiency gains enabled by tools, they are often the "greediest" in terms of contributing back to a shared corpus.

How often have you encountered private appended data stores never contributed back to primary sources?

@productnerd

>I am unsure about the direct, albeit miniscule, large scale monetization of my explicit work.

Well, it is also interesting to use both "large scale" and minuscule in the same sentence -- I don't really see it as minuscule, since the models are using the entirety of your work.

It doesn't feel at all like the concept of "fair use" for example -- things are copied wholesale, and all "derivative works" are not necessarily transformative.

@yoasif Hey this is a really great article! I'm glad you found inspiration for content!