@rebelyelliex And... It works! I told my daughters, "you know how you occasionally think, 'I'm not going to ever do that to my kids,' well you probably won't, but remember the opposite of wrong isn't necessarily right." I had a dad that was silent or yelling. I've been a dad that never yells at them, and always found humor at how serious people with authority take themselves. Never sure if that was the right thing to do.