@reiver@mastodon.socialI created my first Fediverse Starter-Pack / Follow-Pack using fedidevs.com
A Starter-Follow-Pack of people who make the technology of and for the Fediverse.
(It is currently incomplete, as I could only add Mastodon accounts. And the starter-follow-pack won't let you add anyone whose profile is NOT "discoverable". I also probably forgot people to include.)
@reiver That is so cool!
@reiver are you still working on GreatApe? I see you added a few people from there but I haven't seen much about that project in ages
Yes, it is still being worked on.
Although slower.
The people working on it had to take on a paying projects, to pay the bills.
But work is still being done on it.
FediDevs looks to me like it was built hard against only Mastodon. Not against any Mastodon API, but directly against Mastodon's inner workings. And intentionally so. The only thing I've seen that managed to work with FediDevs in at least one case is Catodon which mimics Mastodon itself.
FediDevs used to have its own Friendica discussion group. It was last used nine months ago.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if any of this changed. But right now, it looks to me like FediDevs has explicitly positioned itself against the non-Mastodon Fediverse now.
And still, they have the audacity to call it FediDevs.
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Others made that same criticism.
I think one contributing factor is —
Although there is a common protocol for Fediverse servers to talk to each other — i.e, ActivityPub, ActivityStreams, WebFinger, NodeInfo, etc —
There isn't a common protocol for applications to talk to Fediverse servers.
Mastodon has its protocol. Others have their own protocols. (Most don't use the ActivityPub client-server API.)
Although some other software have implemented the Mastodon client-server API.
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I wonder if the developer of Fedidevs.com started with the Mastodon API — but plans to add support for other client-server APIs later.
It isn't like the FediDevs people don't know that there is more to the Fediverse than Mastodon. They do know. At least some do. There is an official FediDevs Friendica group that did work with Mastodon and other Fediverse server apps. But it hasn't been used in nine months.
At the same time, the FediDevs website is clearly not built against any Mastodon API. If it was, then server apps that have the same API implemented would work with it. But the only non-Mastodon thing I've seen slip through is one watched Catodon instance. Catodon uses Iceshrimp's technology to mimic Mastodon, so I guess it happens to be close enough.
For the whole thing looks like built against Mastodon's inner workings without the use of any API. Why would someone build it like that? Either it's cluelessness. It definitely wasn't cluelessness. At least someone had to have knowledge of a Fediverse outside of Mastodon; see the Friendica group.
Or it's intentional malice. It's like someone is secretly waging war against everything in the Fediverse that is not Mastodon. That seems to be why the Friendica group was abandoned, namely in order to stop using and thus promoting something that isn't Mastodon.
And FediDevs looks like it was built the way it was built in order to make bloody sure it will always stay a Mastodon-exclusive thing by making it as incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse as possible, at least probably without as blatantly obvious means as rejecting user agents. The "Fedi" in the name is the cherry on top to a) drive the point home that the Fediverse is (or should be) only Mastodon and b) flip the bird at the non-Mastodon Fediverse.
The whole backend code seems to be built against Mastodon directly also to make it as difficult as possible to add compatibility with other Fediverse server applications because that would require the whole backend to be redesigned and rewritten from the ground up.
I'd really like the FediDevs staff to prove me wrong by actually opening their site to the non-Mastodon Fediverse.
CC: @@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:
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