So, no Fairphone 3, and Fairphone 2 released in 2015. Looks like I will need to reconsider my mobile strategy. Eh.

@flexbit yeah, but the dates are unclear, and so is whether or not it will have a way of running Android apps. Sadly, I rely on Signal heavily and I need to take this into account. :(

@rysiek Sorry, can't follow that link, but I suppose you have already considered sailfish, then :)

Yeah, that's a real problem after imploding.

I have to live now with my 6p (+Netguard) and my Nexus 5 (Ubuntu Touch).

I was thinking of buying a Sony Xperia for the experiment, but I'm sick of experiments and, perhaps, wasting money.

@mastor a friend of mine uses on a Sony Xperia and seems quite happy with that set-up. Not a hardware hacker, either. Seems like SailfishOS on an Xperia is a usable option.

@rysiek 200 € again, at least. Hm.

(I used a Jolla phone before I went Nexus with custom ROMs/Tor/Copperhead …)

@yuvadm @mastor @rysiek @postmarketOS They have been in the development stage for quite some time. Personally, I don't see them releasing production quality images within a few years.

I do like the idea and am keeping a close eye.

@h3artbl33d @mastor @rysiek @postmarketOS This says more about hardware vendors and lack of upstreaming than about the project itself. This is a long term effort, but it's definitely hapenning.

@yuvadm @mastor @rysiek @postmarketOS

Unfortunately, you are right. The smartphone market is helt hostage by vendors and faux open source developers like Google.

Right now - smartphone hardware is far from open. Way too much nastyness going on for a small party of enlightened spirits to change this. When you think of it - this is madness and needs to change - like yesterday.

@mastor @yuvadm @rysiek

Nice! Thanks for the share. Doubt I am going to use it though - as it doesn't honor my security model. At least, not with the info they made public right now.

They support devices that are EOL - thus receiving no firmware updates. In my opinion, security allows the enforcement of privacy. A comprimised phone would mean comprimised data - thus no privacy.

Am going to keep an eye on 'em - for sure 😉

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