The year is 2019 and I can’t buy a good majority of consumer technology because we lack privacy legislation and consumer protections. Example: it’s absurd that my TV came with spyware that can’t be turned off or avoided; I had to stop it from phoning home at the network level. It also came with an arbitration clause and a clause waiving the right to a class action lawsuit.

@retrohacker
i think the problem is not lack of legislation. the tech monopoly of big corps exists because people bought it. they sold their privacy for convenience and trendy blinking lights. furthermore, it is impossible for lawmakers to understand new technologies and to do specific laws for each new tech trap and it is impossible to stop the stupidity from people with the "it is ok, i have nothing to hide" mindset.

@hansbauer @retrohacker nope, actually, it's the lack of legislation.

We don't expect people to be experts in chemistry and food safety in order for them not to get poisoned by food they buy. This is called food safety standards.

And yet we expect people will become tech and legal experts, reading through endless EULAs and understanding the fine print, and then being able to verify the tech behind it, for them to be able to protect their basic privacy?

Bollocks.

@hansbauer @retrohacker legislators were able to create food safety standards that make getting poisoned by store-bought food impossibly unlikely. They were able to create regulations around medicines that make it highly unlikely for people to get poisoned by actual, you know, poisons (every medicine is poison in the right amount).

We can, and should, expect legislators to step in and regulate the IT industry.

Market will not solve it.

@rysiek
if you trust legislators and government, it is ok. but i find pretty dangerous to give more power to them because, asking them to protect us. if they do form an advisory tech board, who do you imagine will be there? the same big corps. it is even possible they decide only approved software and hardware will be lawful in some use cases, and you can be certain, it will be from big corps.
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@hansbauer @retrohacker nobody is giving them power, they already have that power.

I have been on a number of advisory boards, including one to a minister in a government. I have been also involved in grass-roots actions, including against ACTA (which, you know, worked).

And you have not answered my questions from the previous toot:
1. how is bad software/hardware not able to do immediate harm?
2. are food and water safety standards useless or not?

I would appreciate your answer.

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@hansbauer @retrohacker and I am not saying we should trust the legislators. Quite the contrary.

But we can get them to enact the right kind legislation -- and I know that is actually possible from my own personal experience.

I also know that without legislation, IT crappiness is not going away. Because the incentives are completely b0rked.

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