Calling all admins of instances in the . The is coming, we need to show the MEPs how massively the EU Internets will be affected.

We are preparing a list of all EU-based , , , , , and any other instances.

Please *contact me*. All I need is the domain name, which EU Member State it's located in, and the rough topic of the instance. Approximate user count welcome, but not necessary.

Please help. This is important.

If someone can translate this into any other language, please do, and send forth. I will boost. We need this to go as far and wide as possible.

Thank you all.

The additional thing is that might get a visibility boost (yeah, I said it) from the Europarliament, since we might get featured in a debate at some point.

It does not matter if your instance is small. It does not matter if your instance is not run for profit.

You *will* be affected by the .

Your instance being on this list will help us make that point.

@rysiek this instance is located in germany for the moment o7

@ivesen thanks, added. Can you share estimated number of users?

@lain doesn't matter. The Directive will affect everything. And even if there are some exceptions, they will be artificial and eventually dismantled.

We either stop it now, or we get stuck with it.

@lain ah nice. Problem with that, of course, is that "profit-making purposes" is so wide that it's almost irrelevant.

I mean, yeah, private instances will not fall under that. But as soon as you accept any donations...

@rysiek i mean, yes, i think it's a bad idea and an unworkable law, but i don't see how it applies to the vast majority of fediverse instances

@rysiek Do we just message you here or do you prefer somewhere else?

If here:, netherlands [server] and germany [admin contact / owner], nominally 800 users but practically about 100 daily active, topic is generalistic

@rysiek my instance is a single user and is located in Germany. No particular topics.

@rysiek Single User, Germany, topic everything/personal use.

@rysiek in what way not-for-profit or small instances are affected by current state of legislation?

Non-profit instances will not be affected.
*The article 2.6 definition: ‘online content-sharing service provider’ means a provider of an information society service of which the main or one of the main purposes is to store and give the public access to a large amount of copyright-protected works or other protected subject matter uploaded by its users, which it organises and promotes for *profitmaking* purposes [...]

@philonerd please define what "non-profit" means. Is m.s non-profit? Will (for-profit hosting personal instances) be affected? From talking to the lawyers: it is not clear.

And you can be 100% sure that the big business will interpret the law in a maximalist way:

And so, even if you're right there, what if an instance gets sued by big business? Will it afford legal defence?

Mastodon instances that don't get revenue from advertisement companies are non-profit. It can still receive donations from its users to pay for the hosting cost. That doesn't count as profit. Wikipedia is explicitly mentioned as a platform that won't be affected by article 13 due to being non-profit. But Wikipedia receives donations. So obviously mastodon instances without ads that merely receive donations will be non-profit as well.

I guess if you don't have to pay to use the service and if the service doesn't receive revenue from advertisements or from selling your data, then it is non-profit.

@philonerd I'm going to say: we shall see what lawsuits and chilling effects we see in 2.5 years. You're basing your argument on cuddly promises made by copyright maximalist's propaganda site (look at the About Us section, it's basically copyright collectives, which I can go on a completely separate rant on). I am basing my argument on talking to lawyers and a having been doing reform activism for a decade.

I hope *you* are right.

@philonerd huge platforms don't care, they have the money to pay for this. Small platforms -- like Fediverse instances -- are going to be screwed with their pants on whenever big business fancies.

@philonerd this whole thing is boxing internet culture in terms familiar to corporate lawyers. It completely ignores small creators (will huge platforms be required to pay them? how?), it completely ignores small platforms (the small-size exclusion expires after 3 years of operation).

We will see the chilling effects in 2 years. And fun copyright lawsuits will start in 2.5 years. Get your popcorn ready.

@rysiek Hello, I'm French but all of my instance's servers are located in Canada, am I affected by this?

@Siphonay you are, but we're currently limiting the list to EU-hosted instances.

But please stay tuned.

@rysiek My instance ( is located in Lithuania. Need help translating text to Lithuanian?

@rysiek If someone has time they could do a script by using data from here: - fetch the IP, check if in EU and then sum the domains+users. I could try tomorrow but I guess time running out...

@rysiek oh, IP is already in the dataset, just needs country location. I've yet to find something that doesn't rate limit and ban me :/

@tastytea TBH I did prefer an online API that would not require installing and updating databases, have used maxmind I think a long time ago and it needed frequent updating to be somewhat reliable. Trouble is, I've got myself banned from all the free online services I've tried :D So Maxmind it is I guess.

@tastytea @jaywink any luck? I am manually adding instances for the time being, but some automation would be great (but I can't handle everything ;) ).

@rysiek @tastytea Countries are now in the dataset! Also shown in the lists on the site. Unfortunately the big list of all nodes dies due to... the amount of nodes.

I'll work on a dedicated page to provide the data, will ping you today or tomorrow 👍

@jaywink we have time. It's a question of weeks, not hours.

If you can do that this will be super useful! Info on software running would potentially be helpful too.

@rysiek Cool, for sure I can! I thought there was a vote very soon coming days. I've been meaning to get the country info sorted there anyway :D

@jaywink yup. But the sooner we get the data, the better we can prepare

@rysiek Sorry I've had so many things going on all I've managed to do is this:

I was aiming for a filterable table, I'll try make it better tomorrow and get some "EU" related total counts...

Ideas welcome. Also maybe thinking of putting some text about article 13 there.

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