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Hey , any sane replacements for and ?

I am looking for something that ideally:
- is cross-platform
- is reliable
- is FLOSS
- is reasonably easy to use by non-technical people
- supports screen-sharing and remote input control.

Halp?

@gbschenkel that's a gui framework, not a remote desktop solution

@rysiek Biggest issue is discovery. dwservice is offering the middleman service which is probably similar to what teamviewer does?

Are there FLOSS alternatives in which the middleman can be selfhosted? Also NAT traversal should be possbile? Or is it asking too much in 2020?

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