@saira *witness pebble*

Still, what was the situation of "All will be well"? Somewhere near the bottom of a nasty situation, as my too vague memory supplies it.

@OldBrushNewPaper thank you

might rearrange that to:
I am feeling great
and all will be well

or better yet:
hope you're feeling great
cos all will be well

@saira In my scratching around a bit with Buddhism, they seem quite ready to remind one not that our sensory world is transient - that, too, of course, but to a greater end: the universe is greater than any of our notions.

I suspect, this is the ground of "And all's well".

At least, that's how I read it, when you posted your solstice celebration. In that, you touched something larger than everything we know to be vexing us at the moment.

Important as that all is, we are *alive*, this moment.

@OldBrushNewPaper Without going too deep, I have always felt life itself is transient. I have no belief nor wishes for afterlife, here is now, live it well and full.

As for being alive, that's exactly how I felt. Just the exhilaration of being alive, of being here. The all is well was because I am still here. And every so often it just hits me with a whoosh, the amazingness of life. Humdrum days, bad days and brilliant days all included

@OldBrushNewPaper I'm not sure that makes sense, I've no good words for that depth of feeling.
I agree completely, we are *alive* this moment

@saira I think you're doing fine, in the "making sense" department.

Yes, people do terrible things to each other in this world. But, as attributed to Linji (or Rinzai, among the Japanese), "The miracle is not to walk upon water; the miracle is to walk upon the earth."

It might be infuriating to see how others behave, in apparent ignorance of it. But if I forget that life is a miracle, I am in danger of becoming like the people I decry.

Like Corinthians: if I work miracles but have no love...

@OldBrushNewPaper it is infuriating, yet understandable. But life can't be lived otherwise, we can fought for or against causes as we go.

Tbh I had to use google for the Corinthians quote ( an interesting one that adds to your point), the only ones that are familiar to me are those that seep through literature or culture. My original catholic upbringing didn't include any bible study, which I think would be also be the case for most Irish people.

@saira I suspect you're right (having lived there a few years). That said, I ended up doing some Bible study, if only the reason of being able to prevent some of the more slimy types from hacking my personal spiritual development.

And, it's always interesting because, taking a distance from the Hell-preachers, there's a surprising amount of resonance with what we regard as the pragmatism of Buddhism.

(I should really stop talking as if I'm actually a Buddhist. *wan grin*)

@saira A personal favorite is the parable of the drowned calf. I love it so much, I even want to give a pub the name "The Drowning Calf."

(Background: Jesus' healing actions being surveilled by local authorities, trying to bust him for breaking the Sabbath. He doesn't "perform" a healing, but points out that healing is God's prerogative, i.e. not subject to the categories being enforced. And finishes with how even the most gung-ho would rescue a child or their calf, if they'd fallen down a well

@OldBrushNewPaper I like that. It's a great name for a pub, I'd go.

@saira I'm getting well into the age-of-no-f*cks-given, but alas I don't have the necessary certs to run a pub. But if I could,... you know, I would. Based on a place like Callahan's (of science fiction fame).

@OldBrushNewPaper No-f*cks-given That's exactly what you need to run a pub, well an Irish pub anyway! I'm only familiar with the sci-fi Callahans secondhand, but sounds very much like my kind of bar, chatty locals and lots of whiskey. There are some smashing pubs here in cork, too many tbh.
From years of working in bars, I wouldn't recommend it though. Seems great but not really worth it. Unfortunately. Cos I'd still like to.

@saira I hear you. I got to experience plenty of Irish pubs during our years there (mostly in Dublin, but still...) and yeah, the hours are brutal, and you have to be prepared for some rough trade trying to take advantage of perceived weakness.

Still, "The Drowning Calf".... *wistful sigh*

@OldBrushNewPaper my friend said mine should be called The Gravedigger's Daughter but I always felt that was a bit off. Besides The Gravediggers is already a well known pub so... ah well.

It's tempting though isn't it?

@saira I have too many names to give to things like pubs - I'd do another called "The Weaver", with an actual weaver-in-residence.

@OldBrushNewPaper I'll be first in line to get into that one

@OldBrushNewPaper I think knowing any text is a great way to challenge the misuse of it/twisting of its meanings by others. As well as being interesting and educational (depending on your point of view).

I think there is resonance between many faiths/religions. Especially if you look at the morality of right and wrongdoing.

Also, I always take a wide distance from the hell-preachers. I've better things to do than listen to others moral judgements.

@ohyran That sounds like great craic! Everything should be celebrated in the woods imo.

Btw, where is 'here'? Countrywise, i mean

@ohyran sorry. Just realised: craic is not crack. Just in case. I forget I use it as much

@saira Sweden and don't worry about "craic" I'm guessing you're Irish right? :)

@ohyran How did you guess? I've hidden it so well and all ;) May as well have had a leprachaun or other nonsense with me I start dropping craic. It'll be gas craic next and nobody will know what's going on.

Just offended someone once with use of craic and remembered that

@ohyran maybe I'll celebrate tomorrow too with all Sweden

@saira
Go for it! :D