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Craig Maloney ☕ ✅ @craigmaloney@octodon.social

So many bright people I know are either out of work or are dissatisfied with their current employment. Wish there was some way I could figure out how to weave all of this talent into something where everyone could be happy and fulfilled. There has to be a way; some sort of cosmic pattern we can use to make things into a quilt of awesome or something.

sajith @sajith

@craigmaloney @clacke I think one possible answer is worker owned co-operatives.

wingolog.org/archives/2013/06/

Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney Oh! I had no idea Igalia was this kind of thing. And I do read Wingolog on occasion, just not all the way back to 2013. Will read the series when I have a moment.
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@clacke @craigmaloney I started reading Wingolog in 2003 or so, back when Advogato used to be a thing...

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Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney I have no idea what I was reading in 2003. Probably Slashdot at best.
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@clacke @craigmaloney I've forgotten that Slashdot is still a thing! 😳

Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney You are mistaken. It is not a thing.
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@clacke @craigmaloney How so? :-)

Craig Maloney ☕ ✅ @craigmaloney@octodon.social

@sajith @clacke I was a huge fan of Slashdot and even worked for Geeknet. Now that CmdrTaco and Hemos are no longer there the Slashdot I knew is moribund. I stopped reading it when they had Slashdot BI (Which was for Business Intelligence and not what it should have meant).

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@craigmaloney @clacke I too was a fan. Used to save Slashdot pages for later reading back when I was on dialup!

I've seen Unknown Lamer lamenting the state of Slashdot in IRC. I guess this is yet another case of an ineptly run corporation coming along and ruining things for everyone.

Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney Well, I use myself as a proxy for whether it's a thing and I stopped following it years ago. ;-)
Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney Come to think of it, I *do* know what I was reading (and a little bit writing) in 2003!

wiki.c2.com
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@clacke @craigmaloney The c2 wiki always confused me. I never figured out how to actually use the wisdom shared therein in m day-to-day programming labor.

Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney I learned most of what I understand of XP practices and design patterns from those pages. I bought several books off recommendations on c2, and then didn't read them, but I did read most refactorings and patterns on the site.

I'm sure many of the things I do day-to-day are shaped by how c2 shaped me, it very likely even influenced what courses I took. 2000-2006 were very formative years. To this day when I reason with people I sometimes throw them a c2 link for reference, and people still learn new concepts from it.

Liskov, Demeter, cohesion and coupling ... I may have learned Ruby based on a fascination for Smalltalk gained just by reading c2.
sajith @sajith

@clacke @craigmaloney Well, not being able to make use of c2 wiki is entirely my own fault. I know I'm missing *something* whenever I visit c2 wiki: self-discipline, perhaps.

Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney A lot of spare time and immersion, I imagine. :-)
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@clacke @craigmaloney I just found the redesigned c2 wiki at c2.fed.wiki.org. This way of navigation makes things a lot better for me.

Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney Oh! I didn't know that had ported over the content already. I think I had heard some vague plans, but I thought they would do much more with the software first.

I think the UI of the fedwiki is still pretty confusing. c2 made a lot of sense to me.
Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@sajith @craigmaloney Well that wasn't a rabbit hole at all. :)

I'm starting to get the hang of the UI and even like it. I should put up a fedwiki node so I can edit my own user page.
Linux Walt (@lnxw48a1) @lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net
"I think the UI of the fedwiki is still pretty confusing. c2 made a lot of sense to me."

Me too. I like the concept of fedwiki (federation of wiki content), but I still don't like the UI. The main reason I haven't set up a node is that I don't want to host something I barely understand (Node.js) on the public Internet.
Hallå Kitteh @clacke@social.heldscal.la
@lnxw48a1 I looked around a bit more and now I'm confused again. I seem to never know quite for sure which node is providing the page I'm currently looking at. There are what looks like permalinks, but the don't work as a standalone reference -- the static links and the SPA are not in sync.

Example:

I want to find the page for the Blub Paradox, whatever node it ended up on.

ddg.gg/?q=site:wiki.org+blub-paradox

Alright, looks like it's at it's at an address that pretends to be a static page and redirects to http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/blub-paradox . Fair enough.

Oh hey, there's my name in there. What a remarkable coincidence! Oh no, I wasn't ego surfing at all, why do you ask? I click it. It opens a new tweetdeck column to the right with my user page.

The URL is now http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/blub-paradox/view/claes-wallin . If I go there I see my user page on the right, but the left column is blank. Odd.

There's a permalinky thing that ultimately leads to http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/claes-wallin . Ok, so I guess that's the URL of the page so to speak. But look, there's a later fork of the page that fixed the markup. Click that. Now I'm at http://don.fed.wiki.org/view/claes-wallin/sfw.c2.com/claes-wallin . What's the standalone URL of the right-hand page?

Permalinky goes to http://sfw.c2.com/claes-wallin.html , which redirects to ... http://sfw.c2.com/view/welcome-visitors . Wut.

Did someone on sfw fork the don version and then remove it, but don still has the cached revision?

If I search for "blub" or "claes" on sfw or don, there are no hits.
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