dear 1998,

the year is 2018 and a combination of william gibson novels and the movie Hackers have more or less come to pass

dear 1998,

anti-capitalist loteks developed a genre of music that sounds like a broken radio in a rotting deadmall and honestly it's pretty cool

dear 1998,

most voting systems in the united states have been digitized though despite years and years of sounding infosec alarms they remain so hackable that we keep finding weird music files in their source code

dear 1998,

we have turned the internet into one of the largest repositories of human knowledge and expression in history but we have also paywalled the shit out of it. people have been killed attempting to liberate this data while other artifacts have been barred from distribution entirely because our legal systems can't decide who should profit from the works of the dead

dear 1998,

separatists have held secession referendums in what have been called illegal elections. they distributed voting materials over the darkweb which have since been labeled illegal numbers.

point of order: wtf is the darkweb besides a buzzword?

@garbados Any place on the internet that search engines don't index. So TOR, but also unlisted Facebook groups, certain types of forums, JSTOR, university databases....

@Canageek yeah alright, that fits my reflexive understanding of the term

@garbados @Canageek nah, that's "deep web"

"deep web" = not indexed by search engines, maybe you have to log in, maybe it just disallows robots

"dark web" = not available over http ("clearnet"), requires connecting to some alternative network protocol, not necessarily illegal


@Canageek @trwnh @garbados If it is not http, could this be called "a web"?

Onion sites, for example, do use HTTP, so they could qualify for "dark web" though.

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@saper @Canageek @garbados To be precise, exit nodes can bridge you to the "clearnet" over HTTP, but the internal network uses its own protocol at the application layer.

Another term for "clearnet" is the WWW, because that's really what most people connect to: HTTP over TCP port 80 (serving HTML); HTTPS is served over port 443.

In contrast, onion sites are served with TOR over TCP ports 443, 9001, 9030 (also as HTML).

@trwnh @Canageek @garbados I am a bit confused now :)

Even a hidden service is accessed using HTTP (is this what you mean with "TOR over TCP")?

My understanding of Tor is that it just tunnels a connection byte stream making sure only the exit node can decrypt a whole thing, without disclosing other details like TCP connection metadata.

If used within a browser, the byte stream contains a HTTP request.

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