Mastodon replies to threads still confuse me. I reply to one, I -know- I've replied to it, and while I see it on my timeline, I don't see it when I browse directly to the toot on another instance that started it.

If there is a reason it doesn't appear in that second view, I sure don't know what it is, and there's no feedback that indicates why.

@Sir_Boops To state the obvious for instance owners, if you are on the mainline (master), you are essentially a "testing instance". github.com/tootsuite/documenta 'It is highly recommended to run a tagged release of Mastodon and not run off the current master branch.'

So you REALLY shouldn't be running ^ (yet) unless you know what you're doing and know the implications of doing this.

@fluffy It's like...another Denny's. Tons of stuff in the yellow food group.

@EdBCollie @edbcollie You can set a redirect, too. I forget how, but it points to the new name on the new instance.

anthracite thinks out loud while working on instance-update preparations 

anthracite thinks out loud while working on instance-update preparations 

anthracite thinks out loud while working on instance-update preparations 

anthracite thinks out loud while working on instance-update preparations 

@Mycroft Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. If spidering is something Mastodon as a general service wants to avoid, they should start clamping down on the 'how' now, and not when someone does this. According to instances.social/list/advanced= , the top four instances have a million users. On a guess, the next million is in 300-500 servers. It's pretty top heavy.

My main point in (2) is, if the API allows the equivalent of 'select * from instance where TOOT=true', don't be surprised when someone does (inadvertently taking instances down for hours at a time by slamming them), or pushes right up against throttling limits on an instance that ARE there, to do exactly that. I hope it's been thought about.

I get that Mastodon is how it is because it's small, it's not scraped for content, and no big celebrity has showed up yet, but:

1. It will grow.
2. If the API allows grabbing toots en masse in any way, someone *will* write a bot that does it, and sells that content. This is a when not if, folks. Can instances stand the pounding of that program? Has that ever been stress tested? Get ready.
3. Celebrities are coming. Endless September is coming. Just...don't be disappointed when it does. Please.

@datatitian I've wondered about this. Supposing of course that Mastodon becomes Popular and millions swing over here - why WOULDN'T there be a swarm of AIs doing that, after scraping the content?

Whether or not Mastodon server operators want to monetize the traffic and content, I'm sure 'someone' would.

Analogy: Google (engine) and 'the web' (content).

@EdBCollie twittercommunity.com/t/details

User Streams and Site Streams will flicker periodically for one week. At the end of that week, on August 23, new connections to them (including control endpoints) will no longer be accepted.

This is their way of saying 'stop using it' to third party clients which will see that when they connect through them as log errors. And on the 23rd it's gone. Was always their plan.

@EdBCollie twitter.com/TwitterAPI/status/ : Today, our User Streams, Site Streams, and legacy Direct Message endpoints will begin a brief period of degraded service before being retired entirely.

So no. They haven't reversed anything. You've discovered 'degraded service'.

@EdBCollie Ah. That doesn't mean they reversed it, just that TB2 still has an API ingress that still lets it work for now. Wouldn't count on it though without some kind of post from Twitter.

Wow. Me being cynical as hell in November posted this, about Twitter versus Mastodon: mastodon.social/web/statuses/9

And yet, cynical as it is, (2) just happened, for exactly the reasons I predicted it would: 'Because it taxes our poor servers to allow this type of traffic', which includes M->T directional crossposting. From the horse's mouth: theverge.com/platform/amp/2018

@TDot_Babs Mmm. Yeah, I'm sure if enough show up, he's sure to follow. 9.9

Hello!

@brandoncarr09 @EdBCollie Ironically, 'Mastodon Twitter Crossposter', on that list, is dead right now, quite possibly BECAUSE od the API neutering.

Man. Hardball.

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