you know, it doesn't matter if we use #pleroma or #gnusocial or #friendica or #mastodon etc. (are there more we can connect with?). the important thing is that we can communicate with each other. therefore we should rejoice over every additional server that springs into life, no matter what software it runs. whenever the media hypes something that is part of the #fediverse, it's good for all of us. but maybe we need a new name for the whole thing? I feel like "fediverse" doesn't cut it.
@steckerhalter good point, I call it the #activertypub network not snappy, bit geeky, but it make it clear it's a "open industrial standards" network. Which for me is a important root to growing away from the #geekproblem and move to #4opens which is a useful way of describing most secsesfull open source software projects. Ideas for less geeky names :)
@bob @steckerhalter yep but "fedivers" has none of the "polatics" of #4opens thus is relatively defenceless from all the human problems that left us all so defenceless when the #dotcons took over the #WWW 20 years ago. We don't won't the #reboot to go the same way and it likely will. Build strong opensources/openprocess in now to mediate this for a possibleity of a better outcome.
@hamishcampbell @bob @hamishcampbell @bob hmm, I do believe that both fediverse and activerypub (not activitypub?) are not very good names. Thinking about it know I believe we don't just need a better name, but we also need some kind of council that represents the "fediverse". Members of the #fediverse (mastodon, gnusocial, pleroma, diaspora etc.) take part, define a name and try to represent the network as a whole so we actually have a chance against the #closedweb. What do you think?
@steckerhalter @bob not a bad idea but #herdingcats is an understatement on a outcome on this :) Still like #openweb as all sites that are not P2P or federated would slide into the #closedweb after a while is my thought. That is we grow a understanding that the #openweb is horizontal - as it actually is/was but is not now.
@steckerhalter @zatnosk this is largely because people don't really understand that they use federated standards all the time. as soon as you say email or SMS, people get it. it's a red herring to compare it to capitalist content silos like Twitter; masto/pleroma/etc are more like email than twitter.
there are mainly two protocols out there, the fediverse and the federation (the protocol originated by diaspora). The federation now regroups 5 different projects. Have a look at https://the-federation.info