Tales From The Dork Web 24 looks at the heirloom computer, a family computer made from recycled parts with a 100 year lifespan.

@stevelord Thanks for the mention at the bottom. It's funny, as I was reading it I was already considering linking to it somewhere on OpGuides. Great writing as always!

@stevelord I love this idea! I think it could blend really well with the idea of general purpose modular computer @neauoire wrote about a few days ago

@stevelord I really enjoyed this, and I'm looking forward to following along as this develops further.

@stevelord it’s a great issue and although I don’t agree with everything, very intellectually stimulating. Thanks!

@stevelord I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that CP/M runs in 64k of RAM. I don't think Linux from scratch or any of the BSDs come close to this. I messed with computers in the 80's but had forgotten how little they had to work with, and they were quite responsive. I'm going to try CP/M on bare metal on a Pi next week. I want to dig into this stuff a bit because it is really neat. I might ask for some help.

@daniel @stevelord I was annoyed in the 90s when trying to run Linux on some old (already then) laptop, that Linux refused to boot if you had less than 4 MiB of RAM 😁
@daniel @stevelord The Amiga of course managed a multitasking OS with a snappy GUI on 256 KiB of RAM (on the first Amiga 1000).

@clacke @daniel absolutely, although to play devil's advocate, the Mac had 128k originally and both machines struggled with less than 512k-1mb. You're otherwise 100% correct though.

@stevelord @clacke @daniel AmigaOS was built on development machines with only 128KB of RAM installed. Commodore only increased the compliment of RAM to 256KB at the last minute.

Before AmigaOS, Tripos ran on systems with much smaller amounts of memory, although not as well.

@daniel sure go ahead. Just try to run CP/M Plus rather than 2.2 if you can, and do take a look at the Retr0 Zer0 manual for inspiration.

@stevelord @daniel @daniel

Never forget, we put two men on the moon with 8k of memory 🤘😎🤘

Also (and I have a couple of these, not counting the spare motherboards I have as well), the original #IBM 5150 PC had a 64k motherboard, and a #DIN connector for a cassette deck that you could load programs from and save to, running the #ROM BASIC operating environment if you didn't happen to purchase either #Gary Kildall's CP/M or #Tim Paterson's IBM PC DOS v1.01

Here's a couple of my all time fav quotes:

"IBM wanted CP/M prompts. It made me throw up." - Tim Paterson, creator of MS-DOS.


 "Ask Bill why the string in [MS-DOS] function 9 is terminated by a dollar sign. Ask him, because he can't answer. Only I know that." - Dr. Gary Kildall.


#tallship #Vger #NASA #Apollo #DOS #SCP #Digital Research #Rod Brock #Bill Gates #Seattle Computer Products #rockstars

@daniel @stevelord yet we must acknoledge that Linux does "a little more things" than CP/M or #AmigaOs and C64 #GEOS. Ps: I used GEOS and I was a "diehard" Amiga fan

@daniel sorry about all that. Anyhow if you do get stuck do feel free to ask for help. Also if you get the chance to go through the Retro Zer0 manual and it's missing anything, please let me know:

@stevelord Thanks, I will read it. No need to apologize, he seems like a knowledgeable guy, just a bit off-topic and dramatic. Getting people to think about how they use computers and getting them to understand them is a admirable goal and probably the only way out of the mess of modern computing. I appreciate the help.

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