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@taylorlorenz the post.news thing has been sketchy from the start-- even thought many journalists I love are going there. When it feels that way, my policy is to wait. We'll see things more clearly in the coming months.

@debe @JoParkerBear you prefer slamming into paywalls?

@debe @JoParkerBear there are also people saying they got their invites to join before the person who's referral link they used. As in the referrer is still waiting on their invitation, which means getting those sign-ups doesn't do what they promised.

@JoParkerBear @taylorlorenz I look for the business model for a minute. Without disclosure I assume it's the usual VC dumping scheme that ends in monopoly and abysmal service.

@taylorlorenz for me I’m not interested in any of the platforms being pushed at the “next Twitter” given they all have an agenda. Even Project Mushroom which is basically a commercial Mastodon instance with its own objectives.

For now I’m happy here. As a technologist I’ll be checking out these various platforms but I’ll not “be” there, so to speak.

@taylorlorenz I initially signed up for Post, not that I’ve been let in, but at this point I really prefer it here. The more I hear the worse it sounds.

@MB @NikLindsey I do too but usually doesn’t last long lol also have been thinking about just deleting it. But I’ll hold off. I still like to keep up in the political world and I think that’s the only purpose I have for it now. I can manage to moderate my own TL and what I see rn but we’ll see what happens.

@taylorlorenz is #post.news even a functioning site? The homepage is just an intro post and a “join the waiting list” button. Looks like someone’s ambition to start a site rather than an actual site.

@titchyAlan @taylorlorenz post.news is up and running and the appearance is quite good. But the search bar is for searching for accounts only. If someone posts a hashtag, you can click on it and then get posts with the same, ie #Blackpost. There’s an active effort to make sure there are plenty of Black voices on post.

@angephalange @taylorlorenz interesting to see, thanks for sharing that

@taylorlorenz Post News just smells off to me. From the fact that all of its early promoters appear to come from a small group of media Twitter users to the fact that they ask for your LinkedIn profile on their waitlist form.

@buzz @taylorlorenz that’s the part I don’t like - are they checking credentials?

@taylorlorenz is there a citation for Post being "Twitter's main competitor outside mastodon"? Not doubting per se, just curious how that was determined

@shawn_dubs @taylorlorenz I don't know how representative this is, but in Jelani Cobb's editorial about why he left Twitter, he specifically mentions Mastodon and Post. I've also read that a significant number of people are going to Hive.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-i-quit-elon-musks-twitter

@shawn_dubs @taylorlorenz I think you're right to be skeptical.

@taylorlorenz I was initially concerned mastodon wouldn’t be viable because signup is too complicated for the average user, but Tumblr showing interest in ActivityPub might be a game changer in helping make the migration easier for some

@taylorlorenz yeah… I signed up and it’s pretty rough right now. Had to allow extra domains on my ad blocker to have the website function correctly. We will see how it goes but currently I prefer Mastodon.

@taylorlorenz
Just about every reason one may have to leave Twitter is also a reason to stay away from Post. Moving from one to the other makes about as much sense as switching from Diet Coke to Coke Zero because you resent artificial sweeteners.

@taylorlorenz Interesting. Looks like this Noam Bardy guy has the ear and eyes of the techno bro community. I happen to listen to the Kara Swicher Pivot podcast every once in a while, looks like she is advising and the other one has put money as well.

@taylorlorenz took note of (ii) in the terms:

"By providing Content to the Services, User grants Post a non-exclusive, worldwide, assignable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, fully paid license to: (i) publish and make the Content publicly available including in connection with the Services and/or with other social media platforms at your choice, and (ii) use, modify, and make derivatives works of the Content in any way including to develop and enhance the Services."

In *any* way, huh?

@taylorlorenz with only 59K users and 300K+ waiting, it's more hype than an actual product.
https://post.news/article/2I79saYeDYNUjLvaHzoJpPFcrPP

@taylorlorenz of course they had to come up with some commercial spin-off (namely 'exGoogle employee') as the sheer idea of a free ownerless federated system sends shivers down their banker spines

@taylorlorenz not Mastodon though

@taylorlorenz: There's an ADHD proverb that I repeat time and again: It's bad luck to try to solve a problem in only one way at a time.

The cuprocurrency zillionaire version of it goes It's bad investment strategy to try to get richer by only one investment at a time.

@taylorlorenz That's why open-source social media and open protocols matter.

Also, I think it's wrong to label Masto as the competitor. Fediverse has no competition.

@taylorlorenz
Lobbying for or against something isn’t why I am on Mastodon.

@taylorlorenz George Orwell’s 1984 was frighteningly accurate.

@taylorlorenz it’s a little bit more aweful when you check out what Elon’s plans are for twitter (post.news without the moderation).

Honestly, post.news/twitter are really just trying to replicate google reader.

@JoParkerBear Marc Andreesen used to follow me for some time. Eventually he realized his horrible, horrible mistake.

@taylorlorenz I just joined Post! dammit