We simply cannot say this enough:
1. Turn off your location services.
2. Turn off your phone completely when you don’t need it on.
WE are allowing THEM to create a virtual police state. #COVID19 tracking is simply a building block of systemic real-time civilian surveillance.
At the heart of this technology is money, not altruism. These companies are not non-profits. Their profit ≠ your freedom.
You control your #privacy through your choices.
@vegardskjefstad Interesting at a quick glance, but seems like the average person won't understand how it really works, is still easily manipulated into more nefarious goals, and "anonymization" is subjective to those that hold the data. However, at least it attempts to be up front.
The fact that mobile devices even have location tracking embedded into apps and services without proper consent is problematic.
Thank you for sharing the link.
@theprivacyfoundation it's not our choice, there are millions of people totally different from us.
We can't personal-choice this away.
@theprivacyfoundation maybe irrelevant to say i suppose since you can protect yourself here.
Found that a metal pencil case isolated a phone. (note: online shops may note outer dimensions)
(Faraday pouches have not worked for me. I think it might actually knock off a big factor of signal, but the range of signal strength phones can use is really big)
@jasper There are multiple ways by which these things are handled, but one of which is utilizing the knowledge that we are being tracked - and then make the decision on what to do with that knowledge.
When we educate others, in and outside our bubbles, about invasive #privacy countermeasures, we can give them leverage to make better decisions.
There is top-down legislation to seek. There are companies & government/business relationships to productively expose and more.
Thanks for the comment!
This is scary. Big brother is watching us.
You're doing your followers a major disservice by implying that turning location services off will hide your location. I'm only familiar with android and I'm assuming #Google PlayServices is running. Wifi access points and probably cell-tower locations (triangulation) are used as well to track your location.
Turning your phone off does work. Removing the battery is better.
Do you really trust ggl to tell you the truth when it's not showing your location history?
A phone without ggl services (LineageOS) may work, if your phone is supported. Mine was, but that stopped a while ago, which means no more security updates (unless you do that yourself).
No ggl services means several (and growing nr of) apps won't work, like banking apps.
A pure Linux (distro/kernel) phone is the only solution I see.
@FreePietje a false sense of security is also not our intention.
In fact there are essentially no “perfect” solutions readily available for the majority of the public.
Mitigation is not naive, and all attempts to thwart the varying technologies help.
The only way to truly stay off a location grid is to not use the phone at all. So to reduce impact, provide countermeasures for application tracking. Turning off locations is part of that methodology.
Thank you for your comments!
"In fact there are essentially no 'perfect' solutions readily available for the majority of the public."
Indeed. And that is the whole problem.
As I don't believe ggl will change their behavior for the better (as that means abandoning their business model), I strongly believe we (techies) should help/support/build an alternative.
The most logical candidates are (pure) Linux 'distros'.
It'll be a long-term solution, but those should start some time. The sooner the better.
@FreePietje @theprivacyfoundation I play with this option and it's not that unthinkable. I have wifi 95% percent of the time (home amd office) and basically all my communication uses the Internet (mostly Signal, E-Mail).
You need some #offlinefirst apps and it would be great if my cellular provider could forward calls and sms to IP-based systems.
It's not that much harder than telling people they can't use Google anymore.
@hexmasteen Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly, but I got the impression you wanted to abandon all cellular (3/4/5G) connections and replace that with a world-wide mesh network.
Just home and office isn't that much of a problem. A replacement for when people are underway (car/train/etc) or out and about (f.e. walking in nature) is magnitudes more involved.
@FreePietje Yes, gsm/umts/lte can't be fixed so we should try to avoid them.
And yes, that means not beeing connected 24/7 wherever you are. If you need to contact somebody or look something up, the next coffeeshop with wifi is usually around the corner.
I don't think that's realistic. What you're describing is similar to what we had before mobile phones, with landlines.
I wish more people would realize that the world doesn't end when you turn your mobile off once in a while. But I still like that to be an option which I and others can choose.
@FreePietje appreciate your comments! Our point was to not make people invisible to cell towers exclusively.
Location data is being harvested at the application level, such as in a weather or fitness app, or by OS vendors like Google, which are not necessarily using tower triangulation methods. These apps are handing app-level location info to third parties.
Many factors are in play for location tracking, which is why we also recommend turning off phone when not in use.
@theprivacyfoundation Location data at application level is sth you can stop afaik (I know how to revoke location permissions).
The problem is system level, which PlayStore Services operate under. And that it closed source and getting more and more invasive. And a requirement more and more. And that is the problem imo.
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