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Proposal: USians stop using “PST” and “EST” and start saying “UTC-8” and “UTC-5” so I can work out what actual damn time you mean in my head.

Alternately, list local and UTC?

Also it’d be great if you didn’t use “summer” and “winter” as an approximate date. Sincerely, the other hemisphere.

Jessica @ticky

like given *we* don’t use (mathematically-correct) YYYYMMDD I’m willing to cut you some slack on MMDDYYYY but this is where I draw the line.

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@ticky I buy into all of this except that I really must insist we enforce YYYYMMDD for all dates not written as textual (we can disagree on 7 April, 2017 and April 7, 2017, but we should always use 2017-04-07). Then we can all play better. /metadata librarian moment

@ruth I mean I do agree on principle but date order is slightly easier to determine from context than a time zone abbreviation

@ticky it's true, I've just decided that if one leans into this, my misery index can be so greatly reduced, y'know?

@ruth for sure. sensible formatting for all things!

@ruth @ticky oh I know. How does anyone sort otherwise?

@rateldajer @ruth well, not by using file names, I guess :P

@ticky Been in US for almost 3 decades now, still not happy with MMDDYYYY. In fact traditionally in astrophysics we do use YYYYMMDD although younger generation seems to do this less alas.

@planet4589 yeah I guess DDMMYYYY is winning. It’s practical I guess but given it’s mathematically backwards I wish it weren’t winning…

@ticky Don't worry, its use will go down with the coming collapse of the USA.

@planet4589 “former soviet state” : USSR :: ??? : USA

@planet4589 (p.s. IDK the USA has a lot of international English-speaking cultural influence which I suspect won’t just vanish overnight if the union did?)

@ticky Well, yes. DDMMYYYY will survive (or even thrive under the 3rd British Empire) but hopefully the illogical MMDDYYYY will die.

@ticky “former soviet state” : USSR :: "post-Trumpian survivor camps" : USA ?