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What I find problematic: people who supposedly support the open, distributed, indie web but who continue to be active on Twitter and eschew Mastadon/the fedivererse because it's not decentralized enough or something? Live what you preach and start supporting the real distributed social web, please. Rant over.

Wow looks like I hit a nerve with some people. To be clear, I also still use Twitter and I am not advocating abandoning Twitter. And yes, I also use Twitter cross-poster, but I use it in a deliberate fashion, not in a fire-and-forget way. I also write (an increasing number of) fediverse-only posts. It's great so see so much engagement going on here. In general I have found conversations here to be more thoughtful and nuanced. Conversations on the other place are usually … not that way.

@torgo You do realize all his tweets actually originate on his website, right? The original decentralized web. https://adactio.com/notes
@torgo I can't speak for him, but my reason was I didn't want essentially another identity and account to keep track of. That's why when you click thru on these messages you end up on my site instead of any Mastodon instance.

@aaronpk that's very cool, actually. And to be clear, I am a fan and count myself as a friend of @adactio, so my intention here was not to attack, but to prod.

@torgo Don't get me wrong, I'm all for calling out people who rant about the web on Twitter but don't actually have a website themselves, but I don't think @adactio falls into that category at all.

@torgo I agree, but it seems like you mostly use a Twitter re-poster with posts like this:

mastodon.social/@torgo/1015274

How about instead posting to Twitter and inlining @tess 's Mastodon account?

@ted it's a good point. Often when I make a T post and it cross-posts here I go in to Mastodon and delete-and-redraft, putting in proper references but I got lazy this time. :)

@torgo the network effect is real. i moved this acct over to mastodon, but my other acct stays on twitter. it wouldn't even make sense here, the audience for it is on twitter. here i would toot into the void. :(

@torgo I'm still on twitter because I know who to follow there for my news sources and don't see a bunch of randomness I know nothing about. I am trying to like mastadon more but it's hard to find who to follow here, like it was at the start on twitter. It takes time to curate and there's a different bunch of people here. And all the different instances make things more difficult. The federated timeline is a firehose.

@torgo to the people above, time to pull the plug on your friends : D

don't be pussies. put a big banner in your twitter profile saying THIS ACCOUNT HAS PERMANENTLY MOVED to <link>
and bail

which crossposter are you using ? I am looking one that replace any URLs to link to origin (in #decentralizednet ), or should I create mine ;)

@torgo It's tough because you definitely do lose your audience by abandoning Twitter. (Take it from me; I quit a year ago.) If it weren't for the fact that I have RSS subscribers somehow, I don't think many people would read what I write.

Ironically, my blog posts only tend to do well when someone tweets about it. 😕

@nolan I am definitely not advocating abandoning Twitter. I haven't done so myself and don't have plans to. But I am trying to spread the love to the Fediverse as well and at least putting *some* energy there. My point was: I think there are some open web purists who still see Mastodon/The Fediverse as "too centralised." From where I am standing though, Mastodon looks like a huge step in the right direction and worthy of putting some energy into.

@torgo Yes, if you are posting to your own site and syndicating elsewhere (POSSE) the ‘elsewhere’ might as well include Mastodon as Twitter.

#IndieWeb

@torgo Problem is, I can't find the right people on mastodon. I don't know how. Otherwise I would go hardcore and forget about Twitter. The conversation on masto is a lot more interesting, but it takes time to navigate. I can't search hashtags across the network or merge accounts so its very disposable.. I think it is possible, just has to be thought through or data harvesting becomes a thing again.

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