What I find problematic: people who supposedly support the open, distributed, indie web but who continue to be active on Twitter and eschew Mastadon/the fedivererse because it's not decentralized enough or something? Live what you preach and start supporting the real distributed social web, please. Rant over.
Yes I'm looking at you @adactio.
Wow looks like I hit a nerve with some people. To be clear, I also still use Twitter and I am not advocating abandoning Twitter. And yes, I also use Twitter cross-poster, but I use it in a deliberate fashion, not in a fire-and-forget way. I also write (an increasing number of) fediverse-only posts. It's great so see so much engagement going on here. In general I have found conversations here to be more thoughtful and nuanced. Conversations on the other place are usually … not that way.
@bortzmeyer yes, but I felt like preaching to the choir. :)
@aaronpk I do - but then why not federate here as well?
@torgo that’s a bit of a tough one maybe; those in the fediverse aren’t really the audience, you’d be preaching to the converted.
@torgo cory doctorow
@ted it's a good point. Often when I make a T post and it cross-posts here I go in to Mastodon and delete-and-redraft, putting in proper references but I got lazy this time. :)
@torgo the network effect is real. i moved this acct over to mastodon, but my other acct stays on twitter. it wouldn't even make sense here, the audience for it is on twitter. here i would toot into the void. :(
@torgo Relationships with people take precedence over esoteric principles like "open web" for for people. And if those relationships exist on other platforms most people are not going to abandon friends & family on Twitter or even more relevantly, Facebook.
@torgo I'm still on twitter because I know who to follow there for my news sources and don't see a bunch of randomness I know nothing about. I am trying to like mastadon more but it's hard to find who to follow here, like it was at the start on twitter. It takes time to curate and there's a different bunch of people here. And all the different instances make things more difficult. The federated timeline is a firehose.
@torgo have you heard of transition? I still use Twitter but the more time passes by the less I'm using it. It's the same with many other people, you need time
which crossposter are you using ? I am looking one that replace any URLs to link to origin (in #decentralizednet ), or should I create mine ;)
@torgo It's tough because you definitely do lose your audience by abandoning Twitter. (Take it from me; I quit a year ago.) If it weren't for the fact that I have RSS subscribers somehow, I don't think many people would read what I write.
Ironically, my blog posts only tend to do well when someone tweets about it. 😕
@nolan I am definitely not advocating abandoning Twitter. I haven't done so myself and don't have plans to. But I am trying to spread the love to the Fediverse as well and at least putting *some* energy there. My point was: I think there are some open web purists who still see Mastodon/The Fediverse as "too centralised." From where I am standing though, Mastodon looks like a huge step in the right direction and worthy of putting some energy into.
@torgo Totally agree, yeah.
@torgo Problem is, I can't find the right people on mastodon. I don't know how. Otherwise I would go hardcore and forget about Twitter. The conversation on masto is a lot more interesting, but it takes time to navigate. I can't search hashtags across the network or merge accounts so its very disposable.. I think it is possible, just has to be thought through or data harvesting becomes a thing again.
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