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Your car is broadcasting data about where you go and what you do. And now a surveillance contractor wants to sell this data to the U.S. military, including "real-time locations of specific cars in nearly any country on Earth."

vice.com/en/article/k7adn9/car

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dfw you don't own the car and never planed to do so

@torproject I miss the days of having home phones and cars with radios that had no "smartness" to them. You want a radio station? Turn the nub.

@torproject Luckily my car doesn't :)
If we don't count the phones inside that is.

@torproject
I'd like to see how other countries respond to this 🤔

@torproject are there new cars being manufactured in the US that do NOT have any tracking built in?

@torproject

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall

In the EU they've even mandated, incredibly, for all new cars to be bugged (apparently the system includes a microphone, WTF!?)

Today they lie about it being "for our own security" (just like every other form of gratuitous, insane, over-the-top mass spying) and tomorrow it can be used in all sorts of ways up to and including signature strikes.

If only people would finally realize that there is no such thing as well-intentioned or benign mass #surveillance.

@quincy @torproject That article is in serious need of some updating.

"depending on the final implementation"
"made mandatory in 2018"

@samgai @torproject Sadly, that appears to be the case. One would think they'd stop making more once there were enough cars around ...

@samgai @torproject Indeed, it's outdated. The scheme has since been rolled out.

ec.europa.eu/digital-single-ma

I'd love to update the article, but I stopped contributing to #Wikipedia entirely when (back in 2014 IIRC?) they decided to completely block edits via #tor even from already registered and active users ... which doesn't make any sense at all, but it looks like they're standing by their asinine decision to this day.

@quincy @torproject I'm thinkng if it's legal to deactivate ecall in own car... My car is one of the last not having, but the next car will have for sure and i couldn't imagine beeing tracked all the time (yes i know... officialy e-call is sleeping until accident but possibly t can be remotely activated too any time)

@miklo @torproject Even if it's not legal, it can probably be done in a way that would be indistinguishable from accidental failure.

Yes, it's supposed to be inactive unless there's been an accident.

And while there's a good chance that it's generally implemented correctly in this regard, I don't really want to trust anything that has a SIM card in it and as such, I still regard it as part of a very problematic trend.

@miklo @torproject That is, it's a comparatively tame scheme, it may really be mostly beneficial, but it's still part of an overall "internet of ubiquitous connected things" agenda that's being advanced all around us, which I don't want.

@quincy @miklo @torproject

I think it was present in a 2020 VW Touran I was driving earlier in the year as a courtesy car; but very little was said about it (either by the dealer or VW themselves) and I got the impression that they didn't want to push eCall all that much as it competes with a system they have already been selling for some years previously as an optional extra!

Some manufacturers will allow it to be turned off, but some dealers really discourage this practice >>

@quincy @miklo @torproject

interestingly the USA has never been in the EU and UK recently left; but both countries seem determined to press ahead with this technology...

but I think many drivers are already sharing a ton of data simply by using a convenience function such as the Bluetooth link for a mobile phone to their car, or filling the SIM card slot found in premium models so their passengers can use a hotspot for their mobile devices (or the navi shows real time traffic info)

@torproject jokes on you I can't afford a car less than 20 years old

@moopet @torproject Jokes on you, that's illegal (at least where I live, I can't simply drive an older car into the city)

@torproject Military ❤️ Surveillance capitalism: a match made in heaven

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