A bit curious of @purism to fork @Tusky / K9 Mail and not even mention that anywhere on their website or app listings?

Also I can note the following:
- What is the point of the forks? Do they even at least pre-fill the "social.librem.one" domain for users?
- Is the source even published at all? If not, it's violating GPL. I can't find anything on their Github, at least.

Oof, looks like @purism also forked "OpenVPN for Android" github.com/schwabe/ics-openvpn without mentioning, as well. Which is GPLv2.

And Librem Chat is just Riot for Android github.com/vector-im/riot-andr which is at least Apache 2.0... which still requires prominent notice of derivative work.

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Like, the least a corporation could do is follow basic legality here, right? Or basic decency in stating that they just forked 4 popular Android apps and are calling that a service?

Actually, even the iOS apps are just forks of iOS apps (Amaroq and Riot at least -- I can't find the VPN app they probably forked). And no Librem Mail, because, well... there are no good email apps on iOS. 😩

@trwnh Wait a minute, these rebranded applications and services are not even ports to their own Debian-based phone OS?
What the what?

@therealraccoon PureOS "coming soon", obviously! They haven't ~found enough apps to fork yet~ (well, there's Fractal -> Chatty)

@trwnh Maybe, just maybe they should deliver on the whole libre phone platform thing first?
You know, as in the reason people are actually kind of interested in what they're trying to do?

@therealraccoon @trwnh while I agree with this take, bootstrapping a company is hard, and offering services does seem like a valid stepping stone towards getting people to eventually use other Purism products, while taking more money to produce more goods.

In a way, their attempts at building an ecosystem vaguely resembles Apple, in the sense that they're likely trying to build a halo effect. They can eventually point to their own phones and say "Hey, remember those apps you're already using for Librem One? Well, we offer those on our phones, too."

@sean @therealraccoon well they're not going about it in an effective way, if that's their strategy

i'm not against purism offering services, and in fact, i think that they should! but they need to do it in a way that makes sense. more like google than like apple. pretty much no one uses apple's services; pretty much everyone uses google's.

if that means running their own mastodon/matrix/mail servers, fine, cool. there's certainly room for more service providers like disroot.

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