🇬🇧 We no longer federate with counter.social.

This means it is now impossible to see statuses, to follow and to interact in any way with people on this instance.

counter.social blocks whole countries they considerate hostile and we believe this is a huge error. This is pure racism, tainted with hate and we don't want to promote this behavior.

counter.social is the only blocked instance on xyz. While we want to be as open as possible to all opinions, we don't want to be open to fascists.

@status

yeah, that seems like a great reason to ban an instance.

@status

in case anyone didn't know, i am being sarcastic here.

a misinformed blocking policy, largely implemented through cloudflare, while unfortunate, is not really a good reason to block an instance, nor imply that they are fascists.

remember when you block instances, you are punishing *users* not the *owner*

nationalism, counter social 

@status @kaniini

no. They choosed to join an instance deep grounded in nationalism.

THEY block many other users and instances, just for the reson they are somewhere which is defined by jester as a 'hostile nation'

They block 'nations' we block nationalists.

Simple. What's the issue?

@paulfree14 @status

we do not actually know jester's instance blocklist, unless this information has been recently published.

a bad take on what IP ranges he accepts users from is not nationalism, it is simply a bad take based on a complete and fundamental misunderstanding of how counterintelligence ops work on social media.

intelligence agencies use VPN and proxy services, making his entire strategy for preventing intelligence ops pointless, and he is naive about the west not doing it's own intelligence ops, of course.

but none of this is nationalist on it's own, and i'm not willing to throw that type of accusation around without having evidence.

in the immortal words of Jesus Quintana, "you might fool the fucks in the league office, but you don't
fool Jesus."

@status @kaniini

lol. the only person that seems to be naiv is you.
jester is known for being a patriot hacker. They know what they are doing here.

They are blocking others based on in which nation they are.

@paulfree14 @status

i am well aware of what he has posted on his site.

i have also described why what he has posted will fail, according to his rationale.

thank you for implying that i am an idiot, though.

@status @paulfree14

by the way, in case you didn't notice, posting a screenshot is not evidence that he intends to be nationalist, and even if that is the case, that's not the reason why an instance should be blocked.

an instance should be blocked if it's users are harassing people and the admin doesn't care about it, or if there is reason to believe (backed with evidence) that this will be the case in the future.

otherwise you are just punishing people who got sucked into his instance for no reason other than that you dislike the owner and/or his bad take.

@paulfree14 @status

in other words, an instance block should be considered a nuclear option, and used only with extreme prejudice.

where my position is that admins should take care with regard to blocking their own/remote users, it is even more stronger when it comes to blocking entire instances.

reading an about page and getting pissed off because you don't agree with it, without it otherwise being an actual problem, is no reason to just start playing ban-hammer.

counter.social is nationalist 

@status @kaniini

NATIONALISM IS THE PROBLEM.

They enforce rules national wide.
They enforce rules based where one comes from.

What's that if not nationalism

counter.social is nationalist 

@paulfree14 @status

I block Nigeria from my mail server, because I don't like 419 scams. Is my mail server nationalist?

counter.social is nationalist 

@status @kaniini
do you advertize your mailserver with something like
'we are blocking hostile nations that try to weaponize our communication'?

counter.social is nationalist 

@paulfree14 @status

I do not, I just don't wish to receive emails telling me I won the 'e-mail lottery' and to send my personal information to some person in Nigeria to get my money.

With that said...

Russian intelligence is trying to weaponize social media, this is *very well documented.*

They have done it in the US, they have done it in Europe, and they did significant astroturfing in regards to brexit, boosting with fake news and fake social media interactions, for the leave campaign. It is even possible that brexit happened because of this russian intelligence influence.

This is actually a real problem, because they *are* undermining democracies in the west with this fake crap they are pushing.

With *that* said... it is likely that the US and other western countries are doing the same thing against them.

So I do believe his intention is what he says it is: he is concerned about the manipulation intelligence agencies are doing on social media. Like I have said many times, it's just the strategy that is entirely tone-deaf and misinformed.

counter.social is nationalist 

@status @kaniini

ok then don't get your mind blown with what I'm sayn now:

moderation + no social algorytm + no pay to get more views

Everthing jester described, why they are blocking IP's comming from 'hostile nations' can be solved with the way mastodon is designed.
...meanwhile the IP blocks don't work at all to stop fakenews, bots etc to spread around.

Also don't forget that he's connected with the army.

counter.social is nationalist 

@paulfree14 @status

> ok then don't get your mind blown with what I'm sayn now:

ok, will do!

> moderation + no social algorytm + no pay to get more views

indeed, but paying to get more views is only part of what they were doing.

> Everthing jester described, why they are blocking IP's comming from 'hostile nations' can be solved with the way mastodon is designed.

yes, it absolutely can! and that's the point that should be driven home to jester!

> ...meanwhile the IP blocks don't work at all to stop fakenews, bots etc to spread around.

you're absolutely right! i covered that already: they use proxies & VPNs, making the GeoIP blocking ineffective.

> Also don't forget that he's connected with the army.

what does this have to do with anything? i know plenty of people who have served in various militaries, and they are good people with good leftist values. i'm not saying jester is a leftist, of course he is not, my point is just that military service does not make you evil.

counter.social is nationalist 

@status @kaniini
- nothing what jester claimed to solve with nation block works

- jester is known as a hacker

- means they knows that what they that is bullshit

- jester is agressivly aderticing this on twitter, without one time mentioning mastodon

This is a pure propaganda battle.

The jester: a lesson in asymetric warfare

counter.social is nationalist 

@paulfree14 @status

many people who don't know any better refer to many script kiddies as "hackers."

there's never been any evidence that jester has written any of his own exploits, instead he just ddoses things.

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counter.social is nationalist 

@Laurelai @kaniini @paulfree14 @status most liberals aren't, either

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