@unfa I appreciate they thought of replaceable battery and modem, wifi/BT, but this device is far from 'Open Source' as this has ever been a problem, since the baseband is VERY proprietary. Osmocom gets close to reverse engineering the protocol to communicate, but unlikely to ever become really fully supported without singing some NDAs. (note: I have worked in this industry and got sick and tired of the secrecy).

@gbraad I see. Todd Weaver mentions they want to go deeper and extend the libre approach to baseband firmware etc in the future. They've already done an amazing job at this, but the quest for a truly libre phone is not done yet.

@unfa The baseband firmware is having deep pockets or rewriting the baseband OS. Osmocom does part of this. But I am amazed that the screen question is still unanswered, as here in China thye would tell you immediately. Go cheap and just offer the screen. (re)glueing is easy! They still sound too much like a Cali startup. Glad they offer 'killswitches', but so many questions remain. Many I have seen failed ... let's hope one stays afloat and succeeds. ;-)

Interesting insights , especially in part 2 jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/1

I also noticed this last time , when watching the video, the device was never really used. Just taken apart and reassembled.

Still very skeptical ... mostly, while not very conclusive, this confirms some suspicions about still unsolved issues/challenges. And that they deal actually with a Chinese OEM/ODM instead of this being their own design. This in itself concludes a lot for me. I know how those operate. I do not expect to see any shipment in a year.

So why they claim they already do? Confused.

Give them the benefit of the doubt so far. But this device doesn't work yet .. that I am sure about

@unfa I still applaud the work that people put in to creating the Neo900 for instance. This is a replacement board for one of the phones I worked on. neo900.org/ ... and yes, we also had the OpenMoko, but that is a different story entirely.

@gbraad @unfa That's an interesting project, Gerard, but a bit stuck.The last blog post was from more than a year ago! :(

@cromlech Neo900 solved an issue of an aging phone, but engineered by the community. if you wanna know more, just drop an email... I usually talk to them at FOSDEM, but haven't been able this year ... so, I haven't followed recent development either.

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