It's been over 2 years since Sheryl Cababa released Closing The Loop. Her book about systems thinking for designers.
In this follow-up chat with Sheryl, we hear her reflections and insights from those 2 years since release, which leads us into a fascinating discussion about the challenges of actually making use of systems thinking in your work.
https://uxpodcast.com/332-more-systems-thinking-sheryl-cababa/
Looking forward to the company tomorrow, on my weekend long walk