As for how I found it, I used nmap to do a network scan and checked out the IP that wasn’t the router or one of my devices and it had some typical default credentials. I saw this article recently that goes deeper on finding cameras... https://isc.sans.edu/diary/How+to+Find+Hidden+Cameras+in+your+AirBNB/24834
@vgan I help run a couple of Airbnb places, I've wondered a few times about how to reassure people about what's NOT there as well as telling them what is.
A page in the guestbook listing all the devices we supply and expect to be on the wifi maybe ... maybe only one person in a hundred would care, but I'd like to make that person happy.
@vgan nicely found. Which hardware is that?
@tuxicoman I’m not really sure but I did get a picture of a QR on the device...
@vgan how did you manage to know it was a camera ?
@Nocta Just a guess, it was the only thing on the network besides my phone, laptop and the router and it had common web ports open.
@vgan oh okay so you just opened it on you browser and you could see yourself ?
@Nocta Well, it had default credentials, so I did log in but ya... basically.
You can get them banned from airbnb check out the terms of service and the FAQ, and/or get a big discount on your stay
@arthurlutzim I did! I reported them right after I checked out and AirBnB refunded me and also banned them (or at least suspended the account).
@arthurlutzim It was a really unsettling situation though... I unplugged the camera immediately when I found it and I think they must have known. I checked out a night early and just left the keys inside.
The funny thing when you think of it is that even a box with DHCP is some sort of tracking
@vgan Troll them by staging a murder or something.
@vgan could've taken the camera with you, and when they tried to report you for theft, they could've explained themselves to the police why they were violating your privacy. ;)
@vgan that’s crazy. Did you report it?
@ckipp Ya, only after I checked out. They refunded me and suspended their account.
@vgan What do you do regarding you bnb in the case you find one of this? Do you leave and report the host? Should you make a complain? What should we do?
@feynman In my case I was alone in a foreign country and didn’t feel safe just reporting it immediately. I posted public images to twitter but didn’t @ airbnb until after I checked out, then I reported it. They refunded my money and suspended the account.
@vgan I think I would have done the same. Or maybe going further. What have you done with the bug?
@feynman I unplugged it.
@vgan The guy was stupid to connect it to the same network & without password. And a weirdo to do that. Was that transmitting somewhere over the internet?
@feynman It’s possible, who knows... Incredibly creepy.
@feynman I think if it ever happened to me again I would just leave immediately and report it instead of staying.
@vgan What did you do next Стив?
@vgan Radio Yerevan
@vgan creepy as fuck
Did you report it to AirBnB?
@vgan I’m curious how do you know that there is a possible cam hidden just by looking at all the WiFi network available ? Generally WiFi are password secured ? How do you manage to find it ?
@vgan hey radio yerevan, do airbnb hosts surveil their guests with hidden cameras?
@vgan And they are idiots too. Having it visible on the network like that.
I hope you can report that
@vgan Oh! How did you scan the wifi to find it?
@focus404 I used nmap but there is also a mobile app called fing that’s very simple to use.
@vgan Thank you.
@vgan ow, that sucks, thanks
@vgan just wondering. you still in Yerevan?
@antranigv Nope, I’m in Kiev at the moment. I really liked Yerevan though.
@vgan please let me know if you visit again :)
@antranigv Ok, will do!
@vgan What about cameras that save the video offline to be watched later by their owners?
@vgan Some of us may need a tutorial to do that
@vgan Oh, wow, the owner went to all the trouble to get the camera wired up with antenna and lithium batter, but didn't bother to put it on a separate wifi networ,
Which makes me terrified of all the people who would go to all the trouble of putting camera on a separate network.
@yapbreak try fing app
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