It completely baffles me that working remote isn't a standard thing nowadays. Huge numbers of people who work in cities commute just so they can park their ass in front of a computer at work.

@yogthos I know, right? I perfectly can sit my ass off in front of a computer at home! Which I will do anyway when I get home!


Imagine the reductions in CO2... less energy to heat and cool buildings, less transportation...

and the corp would get a smaller tax writeoff... wait...

@yogthos "the most efficient economic system in the world" as if

@yogthos @drequivalent from my own experience the worker needs to concentrate and therefore have appropriate working environment at "home office". And that's not always possible. I can't focus perfectly well in my bedroom or at the kitchen table with a laptop and even headset. It's much easier in the office with has proper desks and seats (and coffee machine). 👨‍🚒

@vanyok Well, if you want an OPTION of working in a dedicated office, of course, go for it. OPTIONS are great. But don't OBLIGATE people to wear their legs off every single day.

Besides, remotely, you can work wherever the fuck you want, really. If remote work gets traction, there WILL be dedicated remote office facilities popping up all around, where you just reserve a cubicle for cheap come there and work away, and that's near your home, I'm sure of it.


@vanyok @drequivalent @yogthos At one point in my career in the 1980s I was making my living writing articles for IT mags. Most of my week I would spend a lot of time on the phone, doing interviews to research the articles. I couldn't write in my home office because of the call-backs. So on Fridays I would go to the library and spend the day writing the article on my Tandy 100 tablet. Back then I could start with notes and turn out an article in a day (sigh!)

@yogthos If I have to go to an office, I figure I have to do work, and so I'll put in that work. When I'm working at home, I'm do my work, but also the house work, check the mail, or other stuff in my home.

The thing is, when I'm at home, I have home stuff in addition to office work. At the office, I would have, well, office work.

the company i worked for required me to come in to the office, sometimes i was the only one there.


@yogthos At our company many of us work at home when we need uninterrupted concentration time, and come to the office to collaborate with colleagues in design sessions, etc. Both are necessary. Commuting is a joy for me as I cycle about 5 miles.

@yogthos Both have their pros and cons. My experience has been that especially social interactions work way better "in person" than "from remote".

@yogthos I have worked from both home and office over my 45 year + career as a journalist. I much prefer working from home. Today I am semi-retired and a freelancer.

The downside of working from home is the lack of social life. It was a little hard when I was single (I am married for the 2nd time now). But I do not miss the commute or the office politics. And when I finish work I am already home. I can live where I want (The VA Blue Ridge in my case) rather than in a city somewhere.

I'm totally OK to work from my office, I simply have better environment at my desk than at home. But I should have the option to work from home. 1 day a week/every 2nd day/as much as I want.

@yogthos I just turned down a full remote option. I'm happy to work occassionally from home, but I love just walking by the next colleague or to meet in the coffee area to have a chat. And I talk about the physical activity and the face to face communication. You miss a lot of body language remote.

@yogthos my daily commute is much shorter at 10-15 minutes and yet I'm very happy to start working from home once per week. No endless stream of interruptions, no phone ringing all the time, no out of the blue meetings.

@yogthos my dad works for a pretty small business (web development) and he gets the option to come into the office or work from home! He even gets to pick when to come in and do his hours. It probably helps that it's not a huge corporation.

@yogthos And AFAIK in many cases the reason why they can't remote is that managers use "is at their desk" as the main way of control of whether people are working or not (because, yeah, right, that is not going to go wrong ever).

At least in Italy there seems to be some kind of incentive (afaik they pay less taxes under certain conditions) for employers who allow some kind of remote working, so this may help break that old habit, but I expect it will take time.

That said, I work for a place where almost everybody is remote, and I love my commute (~15 seconds), the lack of colleagues (and co-commuters on the train) with the flu, and being able to have lunch at home instead of being strongly encouraged to eat out every day.
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