@yogthos it's important to understand that "system" here actually means "people". Normal, well-meaning people around and including us rewarding aggressive behavior for "winning". We like winners.
@isagalaev I think that it's a natural selection problem. When people exist within a particular framework successful people adapt their behaviors to maximize personal gain within that framework. Capitalism selects for psychopathic behavior and so we select for psychopaths at the top of the food chain.
@yogthos I'm… not sure it has anything to do with capitalism itself. Sounds more like human nature to me. Feudal societies were quite rich in psychopathic lords and rulers as far as I know.
Regardless, fostering social institutions is the only way to fight that. As in, societies where psycho- and sociopaths are being limited should theoretically win in the long wrong. But it should be a conscious effort to maintain this, it won't happen by itself.
@clacke @yogthos a century sounds like a stretch. It only started to happen in 1970s, I believe, when Reagan and Thatcher went hard right, while a few other European countries played with left ideas and settled on what they are now. So far it looks like it works better than US in particular. And I certainly don't expect a perfect utopian society in such a short time.
Remember, most people are still going to be jerks towards other people, it's hard to overcome that.
@clacke @isagalaev I think this is the fundamental problem with capitalist democracies. The capital accumulates at the top, and this gives the capitalist class a higher level of influence than the workers. They naturally use this influence to drive policies favorable to them.
Therefore capitalist social democracies are inherently unstable as they're continuously being eroded by capitalist interests.
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