Follow

It's been interesting to watch capitalism slowly doing away with private property. Most commercial software is moving towards subscriptions, devices are locked from their users, cars can only be serviced by authorized dealers. Nobody actually owns anything, they just rent it.

@yogthos That's capitalism: a few people own the rest of us.

@im I just find it hilarious how it's another thing that people keep worrying would happen under communism that they're actually living through under capitalism.

@yogthos ну а представь себе все пользователи начнут массово сбрасывать это подписное барахло. Что тогда твой всемогущий капитал станет делать?

@asko @yogthos Exactly: people like paying less, even if it is extended over time, than more upfront.

@asko @yogthos For some of us, it's absolutely not. :/

Interestingly, I've actually seen at least some software explicitly *not* a subscription, cashing in on the pushback against other software switching to a subscription model. Like Affinity Photo (because Photoshop went subscription-only), which I'm very happy with.

@IceWolf @yogthos I have nothing against either of the ways of doing it, but you certainly understand that the majority of people will always choose convenience (streaming, for example) and lower price, even if in the long-term it's a higher price, over inconvenience (buying dvds, I guess? I dont even have a cd rom in my computer tho) and paying bigger buck up front for something you may only use once, right?

@asko @yogthos Well, you can have convenience with one-time purchases, too. Like the App Store (well, only partially nowadays) or Steam: it's no less convenient than a (single) subscription. And you get peace of mind too!

(Bigger buck could be a thing, though. But me, I'd rather have the peace of mind.)

@yogthos Having recognized these things from the start and making the choice to avoid these kinds of platforms/services, I guess the side effect is how disconnected I am and how behind I can be on the software side of things because I dont want to give these corps power over me.

@yogthos ... Most don't even notice it or, and much worse, just accept it ...

@yogthos I think there's an inherent freedom to software that means they have to try to monetize something else - infrastructure, convenience, attention etc. Meanwhile a lot of tech companies are contributing to a commons of open source software for their own purposes, which is undermining private property in a very different way. Very interesting indeed.

@yogthos
Death to the rentier class! Politically I mean, not biologically speaking! There's a lot of it about these days, what with galloping enclosure of land, and renting of surplus household living space too (even driveways). Back to the bad old days of earlier (agricultural) capitalism and tenant farming/sharecropping.

@yogthos hilarious given that every defender of capitalism's favorite argument is "but-but-if we get rid of capitalism you won't own anything!"

@taweret exactly the kind of conversation I had that prompted this toot

@yogthos well, the property is still private. it's just not yours

@yogthos
The day is coming that we'll be able to kill all owners without spilling a drop of blood

@yogthos

I dont think this has anything to do with technology (despite the narrative we are told) I think this is the natural phenomena that occurs when businesses realize consumers/workers can't effectively leverage power against being treated like this.

I think its the same thing with home ownership transitioning to permanent renting.

For whatever reason, those with power no longer feel they have to hide it and curtail their expression of it and that is kinda scary.

@Alonealastalovedalongthe yeah for sure, technology just lowers the barrier for them to be able to do that. And we see it most prominently in software, but you're absolutely right that the motivation is completely independent of technology.

Sign in to participate in the conversation
Mastodon

Server run by the main developers of the project 🐘 It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!