@Beiz not much productions happening in the states nowadays, and there really any evidence that Huawei has any more spying tech than anybody else. Plus there's probably more scrutiny on their stuff nowadays than other stacks.

I also feel that if I was going to be spied on, I'd rather it was by a government that has no agency over me than one that does. :)

@yogthos the problem isn't that they have the same amount of spying tech, the problem is that it exist in the first place ;) i'm seasonally too close to china not to be concerned!

honestly, i would LOVE to go for a librem 5 with pureOS, but i need a digital ID for everyday life here, which is only available on ios/android/win/mac. it used to be available for linux but shortly after ubuntu released ubuntu touch they withdrew the support, and my then new phone became a near useless brick.

@Beiz yeah I've been eyeing librem as well, and I think it does everything I need. A friend of mine ordered one, so I'll see how it goes for him

Ideally I'd want the whole stack to be open source down to hardware. Good news is that Huawei is doing a lot of open source for both hardware and software though. Investing in RISCV for example is an excellent development.

@yogthos yeah, the phone would be ideal to my use case! i always loved the concept of convergence devices.

i wish more people cared about privacy in my country so the national bank would be forced to support linux with the digital ID app again. for now, non-android/ios phones cannot be sold here because of it. seems anti-competitive. hmm.

sounds like huawei is actually doing something good! i use iphones solely because touching google products makes me feel paranoid and disgusted with myself.

@Beiz it sucks having to be locked into proprietary tech with stuff like digital ID. You'd think open implementation would be a requirement for any tech mandated by the government.

And yeah Apple feels a lot less sketchy than Google to me as well. At least they have a clear business model that doesn't involve mining your data.