@yogthos But if an employer pays the employee the full value of said employee, who is going to cover business costs?
@asko The point, I think, is that capitalism creates its "value" from exploiting (aka taking more than what you give back) resources. All value would be lost if the profit would be paid to workers (including managers, rent...) and natural resources (if that'd possible). That's not the same as "free" as in 100% gratis, but you get the idea:
capital = exploitation. @yogthos
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Ben Tarnoff v
The irony of accusing socialists of wanting "free stuff" is
that capitalism lives on free stuff: labor, nature, the work
of social reproduction. Capital exists because something
is unpaid: if capital ever paid a worker the whole value of
their work, it would cease to exist
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