@nadir I just learned the German alphabet: a,ä,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,ö,p,q,r,s,ß,t,u,ü,v,w,x,y,z
@zacts Shit knows what they are called, but ä, ö, ü and such sure are weird. ß is a tough one, and i often got it wrong. The good news? Pretty much any other German too.
@nadir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwBfUzPCiaw&index=1&list=PL5QyCnFPRx0GxaFjdAVkx7K9TfEklY4sg <-- I'm using these lessons for now.
@zacts good good. What helped me with English was watching movies in English with German subtitles (later with English subtitles). . Might be you are not there yet, but it helps quite a bit, imho. - der, die and das doesn't give you problems?
@zacts the bad news: there are hardly any good german movies. "Der Krieger und die Kaiserin" is good. Also "Das Experiment". And old-school: Rainer Werner Fassbinder movies are good, but very depressive (you will find quite a few on youtube). Also "Der Zauberberg" is a good movie (also on youtube).
@nadir I also know how to ask: Wie sagt man X auf Deutsch? and "Was bedeutet das auf Englisch?"
@zacts I wouldn't know why anyone from the US would want to learn German. For people from eastern Europe or France it might make sense. - But if it's fun, go for it. :-).
@nadir One reason German interests me is that I want to read some modern German philosophy eventually. Maybe Wittgenstein-esque.
@zacts Yeah. I didn't say it, but that is the only thing where it might make sense. There were 3 big changes in (German) philosophy, all around the line of 1927. Wittgenstein, Heidegger and Georg Lucas (which then inspired Adorno/Horkheimer). - I for one am more fore Adorno, Heidegger is sure very funny (no kidding here), but i am anything but a fan of Wittgenstein and his gang.
@zacts I don't think after that much happened in Germany. So this is the most modern stuff you will get ...
@zacts There is one big advantag of Adorno: He kinda sums up quite a bit of the German tradition: The age of enlightenment, mainly Kant; Hegel, let's call that already post-enlightenment; Schopenhauer/Nietzsche, Marx/Engels and finally Freud. And he is a very good writer, you hardly can separate his philosophy from his style.
@zacts to give you the idea: https://archive.org/details/01.Track1_201402
@zacts Linux forums might help quite a bit too. The only ones i know are ubuntuusers.de and debianuserforums[de?org?}. And i have set my PC to English (not that sure how much sense it makes to set it to German, as all scripts and such are English anyway).
@zacts To make it short: Sure. Being somewhere/anywhere were you can actual use it sure is the best bet. (Hence i am not such a big fan of Latin or Greek ... :-) ).
@nadir Note: I have only been studying German for _one_ day thus far, so I think that I'm making huge progress considering. :-). I can already do basic A1 greetings, and a few simple sentences over irc.