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JesseLexInteresting stats showing why increasing taxes on higher income/wealthy people & possibly even better results state/locally doesn't occur through elections.Wealthy white homeowners vote more on property tax hike proposals - Chicago Tribune <a href="https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/03/26/wealthy-white-homeowners-property-tax-hike-votes/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/03/26/wealthy-white-homeowners-property-tax-hike-votes/</a>If you're a Chicago Public Library cardholder, you can access this article without paywall via <a href="https://www.chipublib.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.chipublib.org/</a><a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/Politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Politics</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/Taxes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Taxes</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/Elections" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Elections</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/Campaigning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Campaigning</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/Class" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Class</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/Marginalization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Marginalization</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/DEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DEI</a> <a href="https://cityofchicago.live/tags/VoterTurnout" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VoterTurnout</a>

GryphonSKWe're number 24, now in global happiness. Of course, the <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/SocialDemocracies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SocialDemocracies</a> are on top, as always. We call it “ <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> ” in the <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/UnitedStates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UnitedStates</a>. <a href="https://youtu.be/ot_Y0oXnxSM?si=0HapPKbaZA4zADn3" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ot_Y0oXnxSM?si=0HapPKbaZA4zADn3</a>

Marshall MayerClass Struggle Is Renters Overpowering LandlordsHashtags: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WorkingClass" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#WorkingClass</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DonaldTrump" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#DonaldTrump</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ClassStruggle" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ClassStruggle</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KarlMarx" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#KarlMarx</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TenantsUnion" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#TenantsUnion</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RentStrike" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#RentStrike</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Authentic" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Authentic</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Photography" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Photography</a>Source: <a href="https://take-note.com/note-takers/marshall--mayer/notes/class-struggle-is-renters-overpowering-landlords/view" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://take-note.com/note-takers/marshall--mayer/notes/class-struggle-is-renters-overpowering-landlords/view</a>

☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭Attention Democratic Socialists, Social Democrats, and all other reformist socialists:Capitalists will not give up their power voluntarily. Capitalism will not be abolished peacefully. The working class must remove capitalists from power and abolished capitalism by force.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/socialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#socialism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/communism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#communism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/capitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#capitalism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/democraticsocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#democraticsocialism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/socialdemocracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#socialdemocracy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/reformism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#reformism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#anarchism</a>

Exotaurit's really interesting to speculate about things like this, especially in times like these. <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/StarTrek" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#StarTrek</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Economics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Economics</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/PostCapitalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PostCapitalism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/ScienceFiction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ScienceFiction</a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/SciFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SciFi</a> Earth's Economy in Star Trek EXPLAINED <a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=0kLJOyHNvYk&si=gEpSJLay6tzLHyIo" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/watch?v=0kLJOyHNvYk&si=gEpSJLay6tzLHyIo</a>

Miguel Afonso Caetano"The magazine’s distinctive illustrations, when Conroy and Hagglund could afford to print them, were key to both its regional aesthetics and democratic socialist philosophy. Nearly all illustrations are linoleum block prints and depict workers in an asymmetrical, primitivist style. One image from the May-June 1940 issue of New Anvil, John C. Rogers’s Working Class Mother, portrays a simply clothed woman standing arms akimbo on a country hill, her back turned to the viewer as she looks proudly at a sun either rising or setting. As in Conroy’s vivid description of his printer’s “cowbarn sanctum,” Rogers depicts the rural environment of the magazine’s imagined reader with respect but little romanticism. Ideologically, it signals a departure from the conventions dominant in Marxist aesthetics during the early 1930s. Instead of replicating socialist realism and representing the world revolution with depictions of workers united in victory or heading into battle, Working Class Mother equivocates on the state of socialism in the rural United States. It is unclear whether the sun in the illustration is rising, suggesting the coming revolution, or setting on a passing opportunity, perhaps registering that the anti-capitalist potential of the Depression decade was on the wane."<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/02/anvil-magazine-midwest-communism-conroy" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://jacobin.com/2025/02/anvil-magazine-midwest-communism-conroy</a><a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USA</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Midwest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Midwest</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Missouri" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Missouri</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Marxism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Marxism</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Socialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Socialism</a>

Marshall Mayer1st National Bank at 1st and Main Streets Hashtags: <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/1stAndMain?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#1stAndMain</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/HollowedOut?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HollowedOut</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Capitalism?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Capitalism</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Poverty?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Poverty</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/RuralDiaspora?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RuralDiaspora</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/SocialResponsibility?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SocialResponsibility</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/PublicPolicy?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PublicPolicy</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/DemocraticSocialism?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Authentic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Authentic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Photography?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Photography</a> Soruce: <a href="https://take-note.com/note-takers/marshall--mayer/related-content/1st-national-bank-at-1st-and-main-streets/view" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://take-note.com/note-takers/marshall--mayer/related-content/1st-national-bank-at-1st-and-main-streets/view</a>

Marshall MayerClass Struggle Is Renters Overpowering Landlords Hashtags: <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/DemocraticSocialism?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/WorkingClass?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WorkingClass</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/DonaldTrump?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DonaldTrump</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/ClassStruggle?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ClassStruggle</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/KarlMarx?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KarlMarx</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/TenantsUnion?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TenantsUnion</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/RentStrike?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RentStrike</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Authentic?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Authentic</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/Photography?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Photography</a> Source: <a href="https://take-note.com/note-takers/marshall--mayer/notes/class-struggle-is-renters-overpowering-landlords/view" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://take-note.com/note-takers/marshall--mayer/notes/class-struggle-is-renters-overpowering-landlords/view</a>

WillR_LDNLibLeft Gang to the max<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/libertarian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#libertarian</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/leftist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#leftist</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/socialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#socialism</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/anarchism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#anarchism</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/mutualism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mutualism</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/libertariansocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#libertariansocialism</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/anarchocommunism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#anarchocommunism</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/democraticsocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#democraticsocialism</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/revolution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#revolution</a> <a href="https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass_js?ec=-7.88&soc=-7.69" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass_js?ec=-7.88&soc=-7.69</a>

Epic ThundercatI know people are feeling like things are hopeless but what we need to do is organize. I joined my local <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#DSA</a> chapter and will be attending events! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BERNIESANDERS" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#BERNIESANDERS</a> WAS RIGHT! We need to clap back! Plz share! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/democracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#democracy</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/democraticsocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#democraticsocialism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#fascism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Oligarchy" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Oligarchy</a><a href="https://www.dsausa.org/get-involved/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://www.dsausa.org/get-involved/</a>

Icons of Change💬 Got Questions for Norberto Gonzales? Post them in the comments and be part of this meaningful dialogue! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ThePeoplesPlatform" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#ThePeoplesPlatform</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NorbertoGonzales" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NorbertoGonzales</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IconsOfChange" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#IconsOfChange</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Halalan2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#Halalan2025</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PhilippinesElection2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#PhilippinesElection2025</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AgriculturalReform" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#AgriculturalReform</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FoodSecurityPH" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#FoodSecurityPH</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NationalSecurityPH" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NationalSecurityPH</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InclusiveLeadership" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#InclusiveLeadership</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#DemocraticSocialism</a>

AnotherGrumpyDayInHell 💙🇺🇲🇺🇦Does anyone know of an example of a country that has privatized government services that is currently working out well? Likewise, are there opposite examples where privatization has been tried and failed miserably? I need examples to read up on to help me make my argument against privatization hit home when talking with my siblings and their in-laws.<a href="https://beige.party/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a>

Don Hawkins - W7DAHFrom Substack

Venita, DemonessAbout 6-7 years ago I stopped identifying as a Democrat (for obvious reasons) and Bernie Sanders gets credit for introducing me to the term Democratic Socialist. From there, I continued learning. In the last year or two I've come out as simply a Socialist. I recognize many others are on that path as well. I would like to say to them:The reason the word Democrat is so commonly put in front of Socialist is because of internalized fear mongering and misinformation regarding what Socialism is. It takes time to un-learn the cold war propaganda. It feels safer to take baby steps. That's valid. People still respond in unpredictable ways, socially, when they hear the S word. But give it a try. Seek out information, question your own beliefs. "Did US sanctions cause the issues in Cuba, and blame it on Socialism? Why does National Socialism use that word even if it's not Socialism?" Is a good place to start. Ditching the D word in front of the S word is a little scary at first, but it's liberating to break free from the angry mob's expectations as puppeteered by US Imperialism.<a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#socialism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/socialist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#socialist</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/democracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#democracy</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/democraticsocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#democraticsocialism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/demsoc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#demsoc</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/redscare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#redscare</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/mccarthyism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mccarthyism</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/liberation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#liberation</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/democratic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#democratic</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/dnc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dnc</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/psl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#psl</a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/dsa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#dsa</a>

7sleepersmusicInteresting conversation with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AOC" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#AOC</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#DSA</a> on, y'know... everything! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#USPol</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NYCDSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#NYCDSA</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmCRGPFf55I" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmCRGPFf55I</a>

🌴 Seph 💭 👾Images tagged with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC – @whatareyoureallyafraidof on Tumblr <a href="https://blog.taursnd.haus/display/1a041b09-8967-50e6-b579-6ab530094223" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.taursnd.haus/display/1a041b09-8967-50e6-b579-6ab530094223</a>

René Merced :vm: 🇵🇷“Solidarity Is the Only Thing That Can Save Us”Without cultivating a strong sense of solidarity with mass numbers of people we’ll never meet, we’re doomed to slip further into atomized isolation and defeat. <a href="https://jacobin.com/2024/11/solidarity-left-democratic-socialism-dig" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://jacobin.com/2024/11/solidarity-left-democratic-socialism-dig</a><a href="https://mas.to/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#news</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/editorial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#editorial</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/society" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#society</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/solidarity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#solidarity</a>

StanceOfMindListen to the deep dive into the US presidential election and the future of democratic socialism. 🌍🗳️ Hear from experts on what this means for <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/progressives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#progressives</a> in the US and globally. Don't miss out!<a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/Events/2024/11/202411111830/The-US-presidential-election-and-the-future-of-democratic-socialism" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.lse.ac.uk/Events/2024/11/202411111830/The-US-presidential-election-and-the-future-of-democratic-socialism</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/USElection2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USElection2024</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/ProgressivePolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ProgressivePolitics</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Politics</a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/LSE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LSE</a>

Miguel Afonso Caetano<a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#USA</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/DemocraticParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticParty</a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a>: "[L]ooking back a decade, it’s worth asking: How many of the fundamental 2010s problems — the ones that launched Occupy and fueled Bernie in the first place — have been addressed by today’s Democrats?Here I mean the Big Things: universal health care, the power of capital over labor, class dealignment, the crimes of US foreign policy. How much progress have we made on these? The child tax credit and more money for green infrastructure are wonderful little wins, but are they really building a bridge to social democracy, much less democratic socialism? If I sound sour, it’s because I worry that some of our best young people have been bought cheap."<a href="https://jacobin.com/2024/08/online-left-democrats-occupy-sanders" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://jacobin.com/2024/08/online-left-democrats-occupy-sanders</a>

OhSnap!Dragon<a href="https://theblower.au/@jillL" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jillL</a> <a href="https://aus.social/@Qldaah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Qldaah</a> "SOCIALISM! SOCIALISM! The Commies are taking over!" That's about all they've got, and it's wearing thin. <a href="https://lounge.town/tags/DemocraticSocialism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DemocraticSocialism</a> sounds good to me. Look at Scandanavia and those countries' living standards compared to the U.S. I mean, c'mon, not even close.

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