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Cloaker

@gdinwiddie interesting read on the satir model per your bio, an obvious criticism is that some issues cannot be resolved by remaining within a family dynamic (e.g irreconcilable differences and sexual abuse) but there are many families who's issues stem from communication difficulties and lack of understanding. A toolkit worth examining and adapting to for therapists I'd think, not to mention a few lessons for other intimate dynamics like partners and roommates.

@cloaker I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Of what are you making "an obvious criticism?"

@gdinwiddie sorry, I mean to say that for some types of problems within the family dynamic will be irreconcilable issues, thus the satir method will not work entirely in these cases. It does seem a great therapy tool for many many cases however.

@cloaker
I don't know what you mean by "the satir method will not work." What do you mean by "work?"

It's not pixie dust you sprinkle on the situation that makes all problems go away. The Satir Method helps you understand the dynamics of the situation, so you can make choices toward a better outcome.

@gdinwiddie by work I mean it will not be an appropriate therapy in these cases. Aspects such as involving families and repairing communication breakdown might not be appropriate in severe cases of dysfunction or where abuse is taking place within the dynamic. It's not necessarily a problem, not every therapy should be catch all but it is something I thought of. I'm not discounting it's worth in other situations, just saying that there are situations beyond the scope of the method.

@gdinwiddie no, but logically anyone can see there are severe cases where a family dynamic will break down irreparably. Divorces and abuse can cause this. This isn't always the case and there would also be cases where the satir method will work even in these extreme cases. All I'm saying is sometimes you're not driving a nail and the hammer isn't the right option. I wanted to provoke a conversation, not to insult.

@cloaker I think you misconceive how therapy works. I'm not a therapist, myself, but I know quite a few therapists who use the Satir Model to inform their work with clients. It's not a recipe.

And, yes, you may not get the particular happy outcome you dreamed of. You can't "fix" other people to make them play the role you want them to play in your life.

As Virginia said, though, "The problem isn't the problem. Coping with the problem is the problem."