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Confirmed. ChatGPT is actively indexing the Fediverse, even small servers like mine who have not explicitly consented to their indexing.

So while people on Mastodon got angry about Mastodon having built-in discovery features, ChatGPT just went ahead and slurped up all your posts.

@atomicpoet They recently switched over to become more of a search engine if I recall.

Apparently, though, you are more well known than I am.

@majorlinux @atomicpoet It's got me. Accurate enough profile, so far as it goes.

It's a bit disturbing that it's apparently trawled everything I've ever posted, but I'm hardly surprised.

@ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet That's what I want it to do when I'm asking it a question right? Do the search for me (guessing it's using Bing because of the more accessible API), and summarize the results. LLMs are relatively good at such a task.

@Schouten_B @majorlinux @atomicpoet Lots of folks didn't give their explicit consent to be indexed by search engines, whether traditional or "AI"-powered. They just don't want that, full stop.

No-one is judging you for not caring. You do you! But there are potential safeguarding and consent issues here that are of concern to some other people.

@ApostateEnglishman @Schouten_B @majorlinux @atomicpoet

I judge them for not caring, it's exactly those kinds of people who just "shrugg" are what has made the surveillance states we live in possible (surveillance being an integral component to the rise of fascism). I judge them pretty harshly.

@contrasocial @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet I would say it's more the very concept of social media itself that makes that possible. A channel through which anyone can spread any lie they want to a bunch of idiots. Who can meanwhile lock themselves into bubbles surviving on falsehood after falsehood.

This is a bad idea. Look at a random day of things trending on Mastodon and how much of it is factually wrong.

That's probably a bigger risk than privacy (but people should do better)

@Schouten_B @contrasocial @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet Your attempt to downplay the risk to privacy you pose and distract people by trying to point a finger and blame something else is pathetic. Stick a fork in it, Firefox is done. I wonder how much money you've made from Google to tank Firefox. Collaborator.

@OdinVex @Schouten_B @contrasocial @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet Write your own system then? And stop attacking people doing good in the world.

@Dss @OdinVex @contrasocial @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet I appreciate the comment. You get a thick skin for this kind of stuff. It's funny when people make accusations to you of conspiracies that you know for a fact aren't true.

It gives an interesting perspective into the conspiratorial mind and I always try to keep it in mind when I see conspiracies in parties I have difficulty trusting 🙂.

But yeah. Most of us at Moz take a paycut because we believe in what we're doing.

contrasocial

@Schouten_B @Dss @OdinVex @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet

Real talk though, you guys are actively ruining Firefox. It's literally the worst it's ever been.

I quite literally blocked updates to avoid the AI garbage. People will take the security risks over the new "vision" for FF, that's how bad it is and how deeply it betrays the principles the browser is meant to embody.

@contrasocial @Schouten_B @Dss @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet I've been using a heavily-modified version of LibreWolf and they've been doing a lot of the hard, heavy-lifting that I don't see upstream sometimes. And yes, these are the sentiments I've grown over the years. I miss my statusbar *always docked* at the bottom...

Edit: A lot of the Firefox developers I've spoken with (I stopped going into an IRC a long while back though, very toxic about saying nothing bad about Firefox, not even bugs) about it don't seem to realize the sentiments around Firefox. It's become a DRM used against us browsing the web and gets worse every so-often.

Edit: A quick search about Firefox and AI and omFG...Chatbots in browsers?! It's a browser, it's not meant to include mis/dis-information/train-big-tech-AI-for-free null. That should be extensions for...whoever, not an integration...ugh.

@contrasocial @Schouten_B @Dss @ApostateEnglishman @majorlinux @atomicpoet Laughably they have (last entry, of course): "How do I remove this from Firefox? - In the sidebar, choose the settings icon Sidebar Settings 15112024. In the Customize sidebar panel, uncheck the AI chatbot box in the Firefox tools section." That doesn't remove a thing, that just disables it. That's not REMOVED. The language they use to misrepresent it...disgusting and malicious, abusive.