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@scottjenson Quite honestly I engaged by I'm trying to figure out if there's a solution at scale and if I'd want to be involved with large scale moderation. And absolutely nothing personal towards you, generally I'm seeing a lot of "just make rules and enforce them" suggestions from White men while many women, queers and BIPOC people are all saying "it's more complicated than that" (all, incidentally, groups that often do the emotional labor of the more privileged sectors of our society).

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@scottjenson Quite honestly I engaged by I'm trying to figure out if there's a solution at scale and if I'd want to be involved with large scale moderation. And absolutely nothing personal towards you, generally I'm seeing a lot of "just make rules and enforce them" suggestions from White men while many women, queers and BIPOC people are all saying "it's more complicated than that" (all, incidentally, groups that often do the emotional labor of the more privileged sectors of our society).

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@scottjenson So what you have with people sharing cultural norms is the informal agreement that people behave in a certain way as the old guard have to some degree. And along with that you have the realization that those norms are going to change with new users so people attempting to figure out a way to do that so it doesn't go to shit here or overburden all the unpaid volunteers. Both are discussions about community management. They're not contradictory really, just aspects of a problem.

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@scottjenson So what you have with people sharing cultural norms is the informal agreement that people behave in a certain way as the old guard have to some degree. And along with that you have the realization that those norms are going to change with new users so people attempting to figure out a way to do that so it doesn't go to shit here or overburden all the unpaid volunteers. Both are discussions about community management. They're not contradictory really, just aspects of a problem.

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@scottjenson The issue is moderation at scale. A smaller instance can work to establish a culture that works for their group (a subculture that's essentially managed by it's members, it's interpersonal) but a larger instance automatically creates a bigger challenge and a less cohesive culture (even with guidelines) and far more resorting to authority and all the social problems that causes vis a vis policing vs community management (it's no longer really interpersonal conflict resolution).

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@scottjenson The issue is moderation at scale. A smaller instance can work to establish a culture that works for their group (a subculture that's essentially managed by it's members, it's interpersonal) but a larger instance automatically creates a bigger challenge and a less cohesive culture (even with guidelines) and far more resorting to authority and all the social problems that causes vis a vis policing vs community management (it's no longer really interpersonal conflict resolution).

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Canada, convoy hearings, White supremacy

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Unsurprising sympathy for and identification with the far right from Ottawa cops but none of this takes away from the fact that Premier Ford held back the provincial police from getting involved (or intent to undermine a Black police chief).
https://www. ctvnews.ca/politics/biased-ott awa-police-intelligence-harmed-its-ability-contain-freedom-convoy-say-security-analysts-1.6129384

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Unsurprising sympathy for and identification with the far right from Ottawa cops but none of this takes away from the fact that Premier Ford held back the provincial police from getting involved (or intent to undermine a Black police chief).
https://www. ctvnews.ca/politics/biased-ott awa-police-intelligence-harmed-its-ability-contain-freedom-convoy-say-security-analysts-1.6129384

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@vladmasslove @tchambers To be clear, I could be totally wrong and this is pure uninformed speculation. I'm just suspicious of what billionaires are up to and always assume it's going to be harmful and exploitative until it's proven otherwise (which isn't the case that often).

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@vladmasslove @tchambers To be clear, I could be totally wrong and this is pure uninformed speculation. I'm just suspicious of what billionaires are up to and always assume it's going to be harmful and exploitative until it's proven otherwise (which isn't the case that often).

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@Emilyalpertreyes I mean, this happened before things were digitized. I suspect this is less an algorithm issue than a systemic one that gets amplified even more when it's automated.

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@Emilyalpertreyes I mean, this happened before things were digitized. I suspect this is less an algorithm issue than a systemic one that gets amplified even more when it's automated.

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@vladmasslove @tchambers I have suspicions that's exactly what BlueSky is, Jack's play to monetize the fediverse. (It's also kind of interesting that I'm seeing no talk about BlueSky, the part of Twitter that Jack took with him when he sold to Musk....oops, just googled and it seems that a relatively quiet promotional campaign has started.)

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@vladmasslove @tchambers I have suspicions that's exactly what BlueSky is, Jack's play to monetize the fediverse. (It's also kind of interesting that I'm seeing no talk about BlueSky, the part of Twitter that Jack took with him when he sold to Musk....oops, just googled and it seems that a relatively quiet promotional campaign has started.)

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@aristeon @goofrider @mmasnick A less snarky take is that because of US style extreme capitalism a lot of people have fallen very deeply into "clientism" (a sort of learned helplessness mixed with entitlement and a sense of superiority and ability to wield power punitively) and it's not unlike thinking of everyone else as your servant. It's a very different mindset and worldview than the fediverse was built on (collectivity, egalitarian peer to peer, autonomy, and all the messy human stuff).

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@aristeon @goofrider @mmasnick A less snarky take is that because of US style extreme capitalism a lot of people have fallen very deeply into "clientism" (a sort of learned helplessness mixed with entitlement and a sense of superiority and ability to wield power punitively) and it's not unlike thinking of everyone else as your servant. It's a very different mindset and worldview than the fediverse was built on (collectivity, egalitarian peer to peer, autonomy, and all the messy human stuff).