What's funny about Oracle is like, most tech companies, people probably feel *skeevy* about, but also most tech cos have done 1 thing you Like. Lots of people love their Apple products. You might be annoyed at Google right now but there was probably a time they made you happy in some way. Microsoft? People do like XBoxes. OpenAI has fans!
But NOBODY interacts with Oracle on purpose. Even coders don't *pick* Oracle. There's no brake on you just *resenting* Larry Ellison.
@mcc @jalefkowit oracle gave me a really good cloud computer for free :-(
@glyph @jalefkowit Google gave me a pretty good cloud computer for free… then they took it away
Now I don't use cloud computers unless I'm paying for them. If I'm paying $N for the cloud computer then I believe in the future I will continue to pay $N for it and I know exactly what N is. If I'm paying $0 for the cloud computer then I believe in the future I will be paying $X but I don't know what X is
@mcc @jalefkowit this one comes with a stronger commitment that it will be $0 than I have received from other providers that it would remain $N. My previous provider, who shall remain nameless, started at $5/mo and through a series of end-of-life shell-game maneuvers eventually expected me to pay $75/mo for an equivalent service. So I tend to think of these things as price-over-time, and remain able to pivot off to a new provider with continuous local backups and ephemeral containers
@mcc @jalefkowit this commitment is hardly ironclad and I assume it may go away at some point, but I estimate using it for the last few years has saved me at least $500 by this point https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm
@mcc @jalefkowit I should note that I have used oracle databases professionally at 3 jobs previously so we are still like $40,000 in the hole in terms of goodwill here, but it’s made an appreciable dent
@glyph it took me until this point in the thread to realize "cloud computer" did not mean "dumb terminal"
@darius by "dumb terminal" do you mean like a Sun Ray or is there some more contemporary version of this
@glyph something of the sort yes
@darius they're not kidding about the dream of the 90s huh