@majachai@niu.moe I think it's perfectly fine to call yourself a web dev even without knowing JS frameworks

There's a lot more to design than one specific tool

We still call someone who only uses hand chisels or planes a carpenter even if they don't own a single power tool


@cypnk @majachai@niu.moe Couldn't agree more about tables.

Imagine the old /. layout.
Left aligned, Fixed width left column
Variable width middle column
Fixed width right aligned right column
Footer floating below the longest column
The whole having a max-width and centered on the page.

I never did work out how to do this with just CSS, No tables and no JS. And I'm not sure anyone else did either. And yet it's almost trivial with tables+CSS.

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