Does mainstream Permaculture philosophy include computers?
What's the maximum sustainable global population and civilisation following Permaculture principles.
Is it more or less than the minimum global population and civilisation that can support a chip foundry?
@seanl It's a stepping off point for discussion.
I don't think chip foundries and hence automation should be put at the pinnacle of the pyramid of human achievement. But there's still a huge base set of activity required to support all the activities that eventually result in the chip foundry.
Yes, Permaculture is prone to poverty tourism. But "Sustainable" is still necessary. In the long run (>100 years, <1m years), it's sustainability or nothing.