Are you and your team writing user stories... or are you writing product owner stories?
There's a significant difference: most users would disagree that many features that product management, marketing, shareholders, etc., want to put into a product are actually stories from the perspective of the user.
@kevlin more than half stories I work on are product owner's ones. Like, who would say : "as a shopper I want to be tracked down to the level of which product row is on my screen".
@dragnucs Exactly
@kevlin "as a user I want to be presented with the recommendation that the highest pricing tier is best for me"
@m1ke Yeah, that's the kind of contorted 'user' story I have in mind
@kevlin "As a user of the website, I want the cancel subscribtion function to be taken offline, so that it is difficult for me to stop the ongoing payment." Yeah, I don't think they do want that.
@kevlin where I work (not my team) I have seen plenty of them begin ‘As a Product Owner, …’
@franoreilly At there is an honesty and self-awareness to that
@kevlin plenty of cargo cult thinking at play more likely
@kevlin @franoreilly product owner story makes an interesting abbreviation.
"Is this story a POS?"
"It kinda smells like a POS."