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So I think got my online as well! It's currently running SubText on MacWorks/ System 6.0.8 with 2MB of memory over a PPP connection!

Ok so it worked for about 30 minutes, the BBS was packed, all nodes busy! There was a multi user chat!

Then it just stopped responding. Oh well! I'll try again soon. =)

Did you miss the BBS I ran briefly on the yesterday?

Now's your second chance to try it (for as long as it stays up lol).

telnet to bbs.biosrhythm.com port 6400

If you try it later and it's not working, it went down!

There’s 6 messages in the message board already 🤗

So something keeps causing it to stop working. The OS and BBS software are still fine. PPP connection seems fine. I think it's the serial port hardware on the IO card. It seems to get munged at some point. Once it happens, no serial port program (like ZTerm) works. I have to reboot the Lisa completely.

Anyway, it's up again if you want to try it. I added a fancy ASCII graphic to the login screen!

paulrickards

I disabled AppleTalk on the modem port and serial ports seem more stable now!

BBS is still up-- 29 folks made accounts and left 21 messages on the board.

Ok that was fun today! Taking down the BBS for the night.

Thanks to everyone who gave it a try, created accounts, and left a message.

Hey retropal! I put the back up for a short period. I'm testing the system with a better serial comm controller this time. Also got a chance to flex a domain I've had for a very long time which seemed appropriate 😉

telnet to bbs.mc68000.com port 6400

Cheers and have fun!

The is still working. The new SCC chip seems like it's doing well (I hope!).

Help me test it by dialing into the BSS!

telnet to bbs.mc68000.com port 6400

Cheers and have fun!

@paulrickards Sorry that I missed the opportunity! I'll have to try this if you run it again.

@paulrickards looking to catch yours when it's back online. my SubText is at bbs.diller.org 23 and it's _not_ on a Lisa!

@dillera Awesome! I just tried it out and left a message 🙂 I may try mine again today.

@paulrickards very cool. let me know if you get back on. I'm guessing you are modem only?

The time issue plauges my SE as well- I have to use a SE/30 with System7 - which can keep time- and then use Retrospect Backup to backup and set the clock on my BBS (on a SE). Complicated setup but I do get daily backups - which have helped me a few times.

@dillera I'm using one of my WiFi232 modems with added PPP support so it can support multi user, just slowly.

That's a cool idea for backups! If you have AppleTalk running and have a Raspberry Pi running MacIPGW, you can use Timelord (server) and Tardis (client). I'm going to try this next.

macintoshrepository.org/40370-

www.macintoshrepository.orgTardis and Timelord - Macintosh RepositoryTimelord provides the equivalent of the Macintosh cdev 'Timelord' for a network of Macintoshes. Timelord is a time server that can be used to...

@paulrickards Yes, I fought w/ timelord and tardis and never got it working (I used RASCSI w/ Netatalk as a localtalk AFP server. Let me know if you get that working. It never worked for me.

Network Time 1.1.1 control panel works with system 7 but not 6 and macTCP. That keeps the SE/30 in time and the retrospect backups keep the SE on time. But I have to run 2 macs now...

@dillera It seems to do something? The timelord servers show up in the Chooser. I can select them and click set time. The date and time change in General control panel, but they're still very wrong.

I've not had luck patching General control panel from 3.3.3 to 3.3.4 with the 2K20 patch. It always fails with an error -50.

@paulrickards in netatalk.config I have:

#### Set which legacy daemons to run.
#### If you need AppleTalk, run atalkd.
#### papd, timelord and a2boot are dependent upon atalkd.
ATALKD_RUN=yes
PAPD_RUN=yes
TIMELORD_RUN=yes
#A2BOOT_RUN=no

Did you have to do anything different in netatalk? I never saw the timelord show up in the chooser, I do see the AFP voiume show up and I use it so I know Appletalk is working....

@dillera No idea! I'm using the pre-packaged MacIPGW Raspberry Pi image.

macip.net/

There's mention that it's always been broken but recently fixed!

I can't locate netatalk.config on my Pi. There's a netatalk folder in /etc though.

www.macip.netMacIP.netMacIP protocol

@paulrickards yep:
$ cat /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf
shows you the contents. I'll check out that macip.net.

@dillera Yeah, there's no netatalk.config in there and no mention of timelord in anything present.

@dillera You wouldn’t happen to have a Lisa case would you? Or a lead on a reasonably priced one? I have two complete sets of cards and card cages. Just no case to put them in.

@paulrickards I have a case in pretty much perfect shape- but for my Lisa. I will keep a watch out and ask around for a case + PSU + CRT I'm guessing...

@paulrickards Are you able to make it down to SystemSource on Dec2? If so I'll see you there.

@dillera No, I’ll be Atari Party East. What’s happening at System Source?

@paulrickards It's a SS/VCF 'repair day' and the fujinet team is converging there as it's all day rather than the 3 hours for the atari party.

@dillera Ahh cool-- hope it's a productive day! I do like the repair days at System Source since it's closer for me than Wall, NJ. I'll try to make it to the next SS repair day though.

@paulrickards I never patched the General CP. I just dropped the 2020Patch in the system folder- I assumed it launched as an extension? My system 6 seems to be ok with 2023 years.... so I'm assuming that worked.

@paulrickards works with netcat but going to use a better terminal next time

@paulrickards It's a little pokey, but it works! I love old BBS’s!

@paulrickards It's great to see another Apple BBS out there! Any plans to keep it up long-term?

@paulrickards I can add this to my BBS's dialout so if someone wants to connect to my BBS via modem they can then connect to it with dialout telnet

@arcadeshopper Yep! I was trying to add a dialup node. I don't think the machine likes both serial ports being used simultaneously. I desperately need my BlueSCSI+WiFi to arrive!

@arcadeshopper I think it's back now, sans dialup attempts.

No idea if I'll keep it up, but it's been fun so far and making me relive my younger years!

@paulrickards FWIW: Just died on me and looks to be down. Saw an idle sysop and billgoats online, but then it froze (I was sitting in the chat at the time).

@paulrickards You could lift the packet handling of telnet away from the Lisa, run the BBS over serial, and let an external device be the Telnet/Serial gate. You may think it is uncool? It is closer to the original ARPANET host setup, with IMPs in front of the general purpose computers. The IMP did the heavy protocol lifting, taking away load from the host. Like your Lisa.
PPP is quite a job for a 68000/5

@paulrickards and PPP is not really period correct for the Lisa, it didn’t exist in 1983-1985