5. Youtube "silenced" John Cage's 4'33" (see pic)
Fun fact: 4'33" *is silent*:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%2733
Looks like silence is now copyrighted.
So. Call your MEP or e-mail them, now. The vote in the commission is June 20th. We only need to flip one vote:
https://juliareda.eu/2018/06/saveyourinternet/
(sorry, couldn't stop myself)
@rysiek hi, uhm, this was made on purpose, the video contained some other song that got obviously censored
@r0 interesting. Any background on that? I can totally see that happening, but I can also totally see YouTube silencing 4'33" on some bogus copyright claim.
@r0 I mean, dang, it would have been a pretty amazing piece of performance art:
1. upload some proprietary piece of music to youtube with 'John Cage 4'33"' as the title and John Cage's photo as the cover photo.
2. wait for YouTube to actually *make* it into John Cage's 4'33" by siliencing it
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!1!
Quite honestly, I would admire such a piece of algorithmic art very much!
"Making YouTube into a 4'33" generator" FTW. ;)
@rysiek that's what happened, iirc
@rysiek i think it was explained in the video's description or comments
(sorry i'm feeling too weak right now to search for more info on it)
@r0 @rysiek it is here, apparently it was done to show that the inserted music (not the silent 4'33") *wasn't* credited automatically which is still isn't TBH (only because the uploaded credited it himself).
I've run into the same myself when uploading cover versions of tracks, they are credited to the wrong language version..
@DarvenDissek absolutely.
But we also need law not to fsck it up. Article 13 *will* fsck PeerTube up, too.
@rysiek @DarvenDissek peertube lets you get around a lot of restrictions.
GDPR/legally mandated ageism? not an issue with peertube - just go with tor and a non-EU instance.
this? not an issue with peertube - same thing. might not be able to federate with EU instances.
it's almost p2p, but not quite. and you might not even need tor for brand-new instances (as the government/ISPs/whatever wouldn't have noticed them yet).
(IANAL but I hope I'm getting this right)
@rysiek @DarvenDissek then again see also switter/FOSTA.
@SoniEx2 @DarvenDissek this is not a solution, this is a work-around.
So now you're going to have to not federate with instances in the US because of FOSTA/SESTA, not federate with instances in the EU because Article 13.
Does that seem to you like a winning strategy? To me it seems like losing ground, bit by bit.
Therefore, I sent e-mails to MEPs.
Hope you're doing the same.
@rysiek @DarvenDissek I'm not from the EU so there's literally nothing I can do.
I can just advocate for workarounds if it does happen.
And ppl will rely on workarounds.
@SoniEx2 @DarvenDissek that is true, and it's good to have workarounds, of course! :)
But it's also important to fight the root of the problem whenever/wherever possible. So that we don't *need* workarounds.
@rysiek @DarvenDissek I'm thankful for peertube and other federated things because back when I was 10 we didn't have these things.
@SoniEx2 @DarvenDissek sure thing. We need more of this.
Decentralized systems are harder to design, but can be much more resilient when deployed.
@rysiek The silencing was actually a satirical performance, but a good one.
https://hyperallergic.com/9760/john-cage-silenced-on-youtube/
@rysiek It's happened with white noise too, https://gizmodo.com/man-s-youtube-video-of-white-noise-hit-with-five-copyri-1821804093
@rysiek is YouTube paying Cage royalties for replacing every *other* copyrighted song with 4'33" on the other videos that get muted? 
@rysiek yeah I was having this discussion with a friend literally yesterday. Funny you should bring that up