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@xahlee Blockbots with shared lists, users can submit names for blocking with little or no review. Guilt by association if you follow or interact with evil accounts. I seem to be blocked by him as well; have never heard of him before reading your comment here.

@xahlee I don't think it's coordinated by means of special Twitter accounts (too easy for the C&C account to become a target) but see projects like github.com/freebsdgirl/ggautob (which is one strong reason for me not to support FreeBSD, since they tolerate the author of that)

@mattskala @xahlee I don’t see what’s wrong with that. I only block boring people who get reposted by those I follow, but if there were a 4chan or reddit campaign against me, …!

When I heard Trump was blocking his critics, I didn’t get why this offended them, either.

I don’t suppose there’s a right-wing version of this yet, but don’t be surprised if one arises — as a fork of the repo.

What am I missing?

@wrenpile @xahlee If I block you because I don't want to read your stuff, that's my business. But if I tell 10000 people "Don't read this guy because he's an evil harasser" (today it would be "Nazi" but these systems are a couple years old now), and people take my word for it without checking, is that harmless?

@mattskala @xahlee There’s harm, but it’s widely distributed: largely from the fools who’ve never been attacked but still use the blocking software.

That said, I don’t think I have the right to order people who *are* being attacked not to use the s/w.

If I believe in free thought, I can deplore people burrowing into intellectual holes, but I can’t in good conscience stop them.

@wrenpile @xahlee Not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do it. But they're shmucks.

@mattskala @xahlee So it’s your opinion that *nobody* has been helped by them?

@wrenpile @xahlee I think the only people who've been helped by Twitter blockbots are people pushing a political agenda I abhor, helped to push that agenda. But I also think that's the wrong way to analyse it. Some people have been helped to avoid crime by racist housing covenants because no doubt at least one person excluded by such was a genuine criminal; that doesn't mean they were ever justifiable.

@mattskala @xahlee You seem to be saying an action is never justified if it’s wrong in most situations.

@wrenpile @xahlee that's an awfully general principle to infer from what I said. I think that Twitter blockbots are not justified by the supposed existence of "harassment," but that statement is informed by the observation of the way they've really been used in practice, and against whom, not by theoretical considerations.

Lew Perin @wrenpile

@mattskala @xahlee That’s all for me tonight; I’m going to bed.

@xahlee @wrenpile I don't know what I'm not seeing, but the last three from you that I saw are "good night," "reply too long, here is image," and a thing about "first to reply to Trump -> you get massive numbers of followers"