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@xahlee Blockbots with shared lists, users can submit names for blocking with little or no review. Guilt by association if you follow or interact with evil accounts. I seem to be blocked by him as well; have never heard of him before reading your comment here.

@xahlee I don't think it's coordinated by means of special Twitter accounts (too easy for the C&C account to become a target) but see projects like github.com/freebsdgirl/ggautob (which is one strong reason for me not to support FreeBSD, since they tolerate the author of that)

@mattskala @xahlee I don’t see what’s wrong with that. I only block boring people who get reposted by those I follow, but if there were a 4chan or reddit campaign against me, …!

When I heard Trump was blocking his critics, I didn’t get why this offended them, either.

I don’t suppose there’s a right-wing version of this yet, but don’t be surprised if one arises — as a fork of the repo.

What am I missing?

@wrenpile @xahlee If I block you because I don't want to read your stuff, that's my business. But if I tell 10000 people "Don't read this guy because he's an evil harasser" (today it would be "Nazi" but these systems are a couple years old now), and people take my word for it without checking, is that harmless?

@mattskala @xahlee There’s harm, but it’s widely distributed: largely from the fools who’ve never been attacked but still use the blocking software.

That said, I don’t think I have the right to order people who *are* being attacked not to use the s/w.

If I believe in free thought, I can deplore people burrowing into intellectual holes, but I can’t in good conscience stop them.

@wrenpile @xahlee Not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do it. But they're shmucks.

@mattskala @xahlee So it’s your opinion that *nobody* has been helped by them?

Lew Perin @wrenpile

@xahlee @mattskala

1/ Re muting: when I said I block boring people who get reposted by people I follow, I meant I mute tem; sorry.

I too reject the idea that anyone should expect to avoid ever being offended, especially in places supposedly designed for the exchange of ideas, like social media and universities.

@mattskala @xahlee

2/2 But that doesn’t mean colleges/social media shouldn’t have rules for soeech. Threats of violence are out, right? And I bet you think people who shout down a right-wing speaker, making him inaudible, should be disciplined, right?

If you have those rules, you need a repirting mechanism, too, right.

If course, you also need a fair review process. I’m not saying Twitter or any specific college does that correctly.

@wrenpile @xahlee > And I bet you think people who shout down a right-wing speaker, making him inaudible, should be disciplined, right?

If they are *only* shouting I'm not inclined to worry about it. But the minute that edges into violence...