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Okay, I'm now really getting tired of the same old ignorant social media posts about ethics in technology. "I don't care about the political positions or ethics" of a tech project, group, or company is a sign of luxury and privilege and also utter disregard for the most oppressed and marginalised people that is, to be honest, fucking embarrassing. We ought to always seek better options. Surely the terrible harmful actions of even the likes of Google and Meta have made it obviously necessary.

Speaking of ethics, I'm particularly interested in privacy, security, non-profits, co-ops, and worker-owned initiatives, and I absolutely loathe Google et al. I've always come back to the Mozilla Foundation and the Firefox web browser over the years, I rejected Brave because of that bigot Brendan Eich, but the funding from Google itself makes Mozilla a problematic option. I just this week finally tried out Vivaldi web browser and built-in email client from the worker-owned Vivaldi Tech in Norway, and it's *so* powerful and versatile, albeit based on Chromium, with Chrome Web Store access. Also, Firefox containers are a biggie for me. Ah! I'm now feeling conflicted again! #WebBrowsers #Vivaldi #Firefox #Mozilla

yoasif

@MediaActivist I don't see how going to a Chromium browser because Google pays Mozilla for search engine placement makes a whole lot of sense, personally. 😅

If you have an issue with Google's money why do you have no issue with Google's tech?

@yoasif Exactly! I've always advocated for the Mozilla Foundation and for Firefox and Gecko as resistance to the dominance of all things Google. But I realise that Chromium is an open source project financed by Google and browsers like Vivaldi strip away the Google garbage. While folks can complain that Mozilla take money from Google, and Vivaldi don't, as you rightly point out they're still contributing to the creation of a reliance on a Google resource and take money from Microsoft for Bing etc. So it's really splitting hairs when it comes down to it!

@MediaActivist I don't see it that way, I think the Chromium option is clearly inferior. Using a browser built on Chromium tech serves the interest of Google's vision of the web, whereas anyone can use a different search engine in any browser they use.

I don't see that as splitting hairs, I see the difference here being much more significant.

@yoasif Good points! So much is polluted by Google, and it's too bad their money has been pumped into both the Chromium projects as well as Mozilla, too as it creates a dependence, but at least Firefox as software is free of that, yes; Mozilla needs to be much better supported by folks than it is. Bloody capitalism!