I'm not happy with how the Wil Wheaton situation was resolved. An admin was overwhelmed with frivolous reports about him and felt forced to exile him. I've said before that I think it sets a dangerous precedent on how a large group of people can mobilize to drive anyone off the fediverse. Mob rule is universally dangerous: Mods and admins must examine evidence and decide based on wrongdoing and danger, and not on how many times someone was reported.
@Gargron true, your team failed to respond for almost a day. I agree you guys dropped the ball hard.
@johnnydoe so you seem to be super clued in, why is he a transphobe other than using Randi’s block list (which he explained). Cuz I googled it and found nothing else. I did find a thing he did for a trans charity. And someone who roundabout accused him via TBBT, but 🤷♀️. What the hell am I missing?!
@clarissawam many trans people have began using the fediverse as their primary social networking tool because they believed the anti-terf agenda promoted by its various administrators made it a safe space
now the administration of its most popular primarily English speaking community defending a major contributor to the oppression that lead them here for the sake of principle without consideration for how this affects the sense of safety in the community
@johnnydoe but he said he amended it / stopped using it when he realised this. I mean, I guess he could be lying, but when he’s otherwise behaved as an ally, why should he?
I hate this “not good enough” attitude of left / liberals. This tendency to try & catch people @ being imperfect and go “AHA! GOTCHA!” It is super tiresome & not helpful.
@gayhobbes @johnnydoe I’ll give you that he’s whiny and over-sensitive, but he’s also basically been bashed from all sides for years for being too X or not Y enough. I’d probably be petulant and trigger-happy on the block button too.
I’m still not convinced he deliberately meant harm with the blocklist.
@gayhobbes @johnnydoe yeah, I know, falls into “whiny”. But can we agree he’s not a Nazi and/or a TERF? (I mean... some people think so but 🙄)
And what will you achieve by going “FUCK YOU WIL!!” Convince him? Even if half a dozen people try to reason with him, if this is drowned out in 10000 “FU Wil”s, how do you expect him to change?
& even if he NEVER changes, “FU Wil” is still dumb and shitty and counter-productive.
@gayhobbes @johnnydoe but isn’t that really shitty (provided we can agree he’s not a Nazi or TERF, just a self-absorbed privileged white dude)? People can easily block / mute him if they don’t want to engage him.
I’m SUPER not a free speech absolutist, but “we don’t like you so we’ll hound you off” is shitty. ALLOWED, for sure, but shitty.
@johnnydoe I don’t hate leftist politics, I’m a leftie myself (& have been for longer than you’ve been alive 😂).
I do dislike some stuff (some part of) “the Left” does, and I should be allowed to criticise it AS a Leftie. We have to do better. And this in-fighting we’re prone to is SUPER DESTRUCTIVE. The other side is stronger than it’s been in decades. Shoving imperfect allies like wilw to their side is gonna achieve what exactly?
@Demo318 And my principle point is that if your interest is in discussing ideas, you might find a less tainted source:
"PragerU releases one video per week on various topics from a conservative viewpoint."
Particularly as your entire basis for recommending the video was in fact the source's identity, not ideas or validity:
> The guy speaking is gay, liberal, married. You might be interested in what he has to say.
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