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Eugen @Gargron

Hahahaahahaha holy shit. Hiveway is a fork of Mastodon with blockchain slapped on top, selling ICO tokens, and John McAfee is involved. Wew lad

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@dashie @Gargron it didn't have enough Blockchain, obviously. Stronger Platforms must prevail

@gargron At least they removed the Masto branding so if they do a scam-like type of shit maybe Masto won't suffer from it :')

@Laurelai Didn't he kill someone for real?

@Laurelai @Gargron John "Probably Killed Someone, Like, For Real" McAfee

@nev @Laurelai @Gargron probably killed a guy, probably ran a drug cartel in belize where he deffinitely did muscle out the local law and had a harem of underaged girls. Link:

@Laurelai @Gargron He is wanted in Belize, being suspected of having murdered his neighbour. The authorities suspected him since he refused to answer routine question and showed signs of extreme paranoia.

@Gargron @Laurelai He faked two heart attacks in Guatemala in order to buy time for his lawyers to prevent his deportation to Belize and no new charges were pressed against him as his home in Belize burned down under suspicious circumstances.

@Shotagonist @Gargron @Laurelai surely at this point you'd think *someone* would want him dead?

@SoniEx2 @Gargron @Laurelai Being paranoid doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you.

@Gargron @Laurelai He totally didn't, you can't prove anything, you'll never take him alive!

@Gargron @Laurelai I know he ran for US president once. Needless to say the campaign did not get much off the ground. lol

@ChrisWere @Gargron @Laurelai I think his biography would make a pretty entertaining docudrama movie though. I'd watch it with popcorn'n'coke.

@drequivalent @Gargron @Laurelai Yeah, it would make quite an amusing movie. I imagine it as a slightly techier version of The Disaster Artist.

@ChrisWere @Gargron @Laurelai Disaster Artist + Pirates of Silicon Valley with a pinch of Pablo Escobar movies.

@Gargron what a weird post to read first thing in the morning

@Gargron would this be "like Bitcoin but for Twitter," or "like twitter but for blockchain"?

@Eramdam @gargron it's good that it's on github, but they removed the source code links from the website itself.

@morguldir @Gargron @nightpool @Eramdam theem fucks! They must be joking. Fuck this shit. Dickheads! 🤢

@nightpool @gargron I mean. They seem to want to hide their affiliation to Masto/fediverse so I'm not surprised 🤷

@nightpool @Gargron @Eramdam That sounds quite awful, but everything now has to have added blockchain for fashion reasons, right?

I'd rather keep blockchains out of the fediverse. If the fediverse becomes a place for financial contracts and money exchange then this will invite a whole new level of badness.

@bob @Eramdam @gargron @nightpool fediverse culture ruined by investment bankers. sounds real fun

@a_breakin_glass @nightpool @Gargron @Eramdam If that happened I'd definitely lose interest. Money attracts the baddest of bad guys.

@Eramdam @nightpool @Gargron wait, how do you INTEGRATE eth blockchain into mastodon <.<

@Eramdam @nightpool @Gargron the summary of changes is hilarious. Basically slap etherium in there and hide features and branding. This must have taken them like what, a week?

@Gargron It federates with Mastodon, so I'm happy that it exists 😁

@Gargron I foresee no possible way in which this goes badly. /sarcasm

@Gargron Well, I guess you'll have to stop developing Mastodon. You can't compete with something that has a blockchain /s

@Gargron Was trying to read their whitepaper. The hypocrisy was intolerable. Had to give up.

@Gargron what does the coin even uh do.

Toots are proof of work

@Vopo @Gargron They didn't even mention that it's mastodon based.
1. Install mstdn.
2. Change theme and some text.
3. Profit??
Looks like scam to me.
What do you think?

@Gargron I am glad to see yet another proof of how companies and investors create value everyday.

@gargron Hiveway is such an awful name too. It brings to mind either itchy red bumps, or a shitload of bees, on a highway.

@vantablack @gargron tbh, I read 'hiveway' in the timeline with no context and I was like "is this some new homestuck thing?"

@vantablack @gargron Bees on a Highway, on the other hand, sounds excellent

@Gargron It’s like all of the folks that were too lazy to build their own thing are determined to appear INNOVATIVE without actually doing the work.

It’s pretty funny to be quite honest.


Phase 1: Mastodon + Bitcoin
Phase 2: ??
Phase 3: !! PROFIT !!

@Gargron 'the first self-governed decentralized social platform. ' WAIT FOR IT HERE IT COMES


"HiveWay 1.5 - Marketing and Ad support"

hehe, screw this. nice try tho

@gargron so, instead of helping build blockchain on top of Mastodon, they fork and reinvent the wheel. What shits.

@starbreaker @gargron you mean you haven't yet tried Blockchain Yoghurt? decentralising your belly's biome is tops!!!

@Gargron "what if we took a social network designed to not be monetized or advertised with, and then monetize it and add advertisements"

@Gargron and all those comments on there.. "i hope there will be an app soon for this.."

@gargron Yeah, and these assholes want to add ad/marketing support as if that were a feature.

@Gargron wow they don't even mention you
that's terrible

@Gargron Hahahahahahaha!!!
This is so wonderfully perfectly hilarious!!! This made my day!!!

@Gargron I presume the in their fork includes as prerequisites a cocktail of drugs to take so that their ideas start to make sense...

@Gargron On the plus side, I like the idea of splitting user data across nodes so that k among n nodes are both sufficient (resiliency) and required (privacy) to access your data. If there's any chance part of the ICO can fund development of such features that is.

@Gargron I totally agree with what is said in this thread, but the positive thing is that you+we made a very good product or else John McAfee wouldn't had fork it. 😉

This is also an opportunity for us to advertise the *original* Hiveway experience, called Mastodon. 😜

@Gargron link? Tracking John Mcafee's insane shit has become something of a hobby of mine.

@gargron i wouldn't laugh, McAfee is not someone to mess with if all the stories about him are true. He can go after you. ;-)

@Gargron this is very unfortunate news.

I've enjoyed mastodon so far! Thanks for this excellent software!

@Gargron "Hiveway
The first decentralised democratic social network"

@Gargron Took a look, and Hiveway doesn't really look any different from Mastodon. All they've added is Silicon Valley hype, which'll only make a difference to investors.

And while they've removed references to Mastodon (not nice of them), there's still mentions of federation. Which should look fishy to some.

So Mastodon should stay firm and will probably outlast this silliness.

@Gargron Also doesn't the AGPL require them to advertise that you can ask them for their code? Or otherwise how to obtain it?

@Gargron At least we can talk to @Mcafeenomad

But please read what I said on Twitter to you John (see image).

#hiveway #mastodon

From what I see in their whitepaper, they actually say it's a fork from Mastodon and that it will include advertising and a token that will be used to reward people running nodes and pay the salaries of the team that will run the platform. If the outcome will be a better an improved Mastodon, why the hell not ? Mastodon needs a lot of funding to become a real social network. Hiveway will have that. Why not work together with them ?

@gargron Why do they base it on Masto instead of adding ActivityPub federation to something like Urbit or SSB?

@sl2c @gargron oh right, they couldn't do an ICO with those


well, let's not give them any ideas

@Gargron why didn't you tell me we were playing Spot the Buzzword?

BTW: The software still tells that its version 2.2.0 (with currently 1.194 users)

@Gargron @jasondclinton

[Citation needed]

...But, provisionally, that is the biggest WTF!?? of today's social media consumption.

@Gargron we’ve hit the big time now! Also is hiveway peering in the fediverse? If so do I need to do something to block them?

@Gargron (Logging on to masto) I wonder what I missed yesterday... :tinking: