I've made a deliberate choice against a quoting feature because it inevitably adds toxicity to people's behaviours. You are tempted to quote when you should be replying, and so you speak at your audience instead of with the person you are talking to. It becomes performative. Even when doing it for "good" like ridiculing awful comments, you are giving awful comments more eyeballs that way. No quote toots. Thank's
@espectalll Well, it almost seems worse to NOT notify you when someone is talking about you -- the easiest answer is to make it non-obvious. Toots already show previews, so you can still talk about it to your followers, but that makes it a conscious decision rather than something you do absent-mindedly.
@LinuxSocist @Gargron People can still do that regardless, but I can get why it could be an incentive to have an easy-to-use button. Still, if you don't send a notification when someone is quoted, that behavior should stay properly controlled.
Anyway, I propose those kinds of users get banned from their nodes for spam, and those nodes get banned if not doing anything (??????)
@Gargron hey this policy actually fuckin rules
@Gargron But here comes another problem: if someone need to let his/her audience know that toot, but they are speaking another language than the original toot, is it right to use comments? I think at this situation quotes are better because commenting using another language seems unrespectful.
For example, if I wrote a comment here in Chinese to explain your ideas to my audiences, (I think) it may make you or other people feel uncomfortable.
@a_breakin_glass @gargron is exhibit typical poor judgment here: "it _might_ be abused" is a poor reason not to implement a feature that I've seen used mostly to good purpose. instead people are resorting to the "repost, then add a LB post in explanation or commentary" which breaks the link between the reposted content and the commentary.
@mona @a_breakin_glass it's not about whether it *can* be misused—everything can be misused. It's about the behaviors the platform encourages and rewards. twitter is built for "engagement", which inherently drives conflicts and outrage as emergent behaviors, because they generate more clicks and eyeballs.
mastodon doesn't do that, mastodon doesn't *want* to do that. ever.
I was just answering a question that multiple new people asked me, it's not like I *just* made the decision. Didn't expect this toot to blow up of all things haha. This has been my position since that feature was requested for the first time more than a year ago
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